Quentin Miller - Know Yourself, Used To, 10 Bands & Rico (Drake Reference Tracks)

[Prodigital]

This whole beef is funny, but this quentin miller tracks gotta stop. If they're made to be reference tracks it just part of the game, drake isn't really even lifting bars off them.

At the same time, QM is rapping back a bunch of shyt that wouldn't apply to a nobody like himself. I hope he wrote those in his best drake imitation cause other wise, if i heard them from him first i would think they were garbage.

 

[Edub]

current hip hop is just a sub-genre of pop music...you're a fool to think differently...

No it is not, YOU just thought it was! You and whack execs thought is was something to just keep putting on the radio or on TV..."RAP IS NOT POP, IF U CALL IT THAT THAN STOP" - tribe called quest


And the proof of this is the ass kicking Drake is receiving right now...if it was simply pop...none of this would be an issue for Drake now...BUT IT IS AN ISSUE...BECAUSE HIP HOP AINT POP

 

[FukkaPaidEmail]

For those who haven't heard them. @desp please update OP. Songs on OP are down.

 

[smARTmouf]

Drake is basically a method actor...



Current state of Hip hop in a nutshell. He practically embodies it now and it's pretty unfortunate.

 

[TrebleMan]

Welcome to HipHop...there are rules here. Industry execs. tried to work around those rules, and may have been successful for a while(listeners don't have time to investigate this shyt, we just know the rules), but the rules are the rules...he knows the rules(Drake), that's why they keep it in the low low too...he's been exposed...he's a fraud. At least Lady Gaga can actually sing, just sayin'

I see what you're saying man, and my past self agrees with it. But like I said in another thread, I can't go fighting the next 40 years expecting cats to follow rules. That's fighting time at this point because the entertainment industry is always targeting teenagers to ~23 year old mainly, and I'm not in that demographic anymore. It's also trying to control how people think and we can't do that.

But just a breakdown, here were the real rules of rap:

-Flow matters. Breath control was a part of that and made flows even more special. There's no such thing as breath control with punch-ins and nearly every rapper uses them when they record. We can't measure anyone's flow who uses punch-ins.
-writtens were never freestyles. Those thousands of "freestyles" floating around today need to be shut down. Off the top = freestyling. That's how it was.
-Can't be fake on record. Say who you are, no lying. shyt ain't real. You'd be checked for your words, and that opinion mattered.
-No singing.
-no biting. Cut all that "homage" shyt. No biting.

Those were the rules, but bending them was eventually "tolerated" before they got obliterated straight up. You keep letting small shyt slide, and this is the result. But we're all guilty because shyt sounds hot.

With that trend continuing it was only a matter of time that ghost writing became accepted in the mainstream.

 

[onelastdeath]

all the praise yall given QM over the last few months

Kinda dissapointing to see some posters switching up they stance now

Fatherless stans gone dikkride so

@Malta @hexagram23 @ModernFonzie

Wish I could rep this

 

[Birnin Zana]

Honestly, if people let this shyt slide, where do you draw the line?

Ghostwriting is bad enough, but rappers are getting almost prepackaged verses / flows / songs with rhymes on wax sent to them? Really?

At this rate, hip hop might as well be pop music. This is some Pop music shyt by one of the biggest names in hip hop, which is breaking one of biggest rules of hip hop. And people are like ?

Goodness.

 

[Long Live The Kane]

I truly do get the impulse to want to be shocked and outraged over this. ..but these new "reference tracks" makes this less of a scandal than I thought it was initially. ..dude is credited and from I can tell wrote a bunch of hooks and literally a couple of lines. ..had a 6pm in New York reference dropped (a track with some actual "bars") I'd feel a lot different. ..it's enough to be another persistent anti-drake messegeboard narrative, but not enough to matter much more than that...for better or worse

 

[Birnin Zana]

Y'all remember back then when Hov caught a good amount of flack for using biggie's lines in several songs?

How did we get from that to our current state? Wow.

 

[Nature's Fury]

No it is not, YOU just thought it was! You and whack execs thought is was something to just keep putting on the radio or on TV..."RAP IS NOT POP, IF U CALL IT THAT THAN STOP" - tribe called quest


And the proof of this is the ass kicking Drake is receiving right now...if it was simply pop...none of this would be an issue for Drake now...BUT IT IS AN ISSUE...BECAUSE HIP HOP AINT POP

Drake isn't receiving an ass kicking tho...Views is gonna drop next month and go platinum quicker than IYRTITL...both these rappers are corporate...thats why 'street rapper' Meek had to release a single with Chris Brown & Nicki Minaj and get a verse from the hottest rapper in the game, to make that album sell...

 

[Edub]

I see what you're saying man, and my past self agrees with it. But like I said in another thread, I can't go fighting the next 40 years expecting cats to follow rules. That's fighting time at this point because the entertainment industry is always targeting teenagers to ~23 year old mainly, and I'm not in that demographic anymore.

But just a breakdown, here were the real rules of rap:

-Flow matters. There's no such thing as flow with punch-ins and nearly every rapper uses punch-ins when they record. No such thing as breath control in recorded verses anymore.
-writtens were never freestyles. Those thousands of "freestyles" freestyles floating around today need to be shut down. Off the top = freestyling. That's how it was.
-Can't be fake on record. Say who you are, no lying. shyt ain't real. You'd be checked for your words, and that opinion mattered.
-No singing.
-no biting. Cut all that "homage" shyt. No biting.

Those were the rules, but bending them was eventually "tolerated" before they got obliterated straight up. You keep letting small shyt slide, and this is the result. But we're all guilty because shyt sounds hot.

With that trend continuing it was only a matter of time that ghost writing became accepted in the mainstream.

But look at the reality taking place before your eyes...if this was not a big deal Drake wouldn't have a percentage of his own fanbase givin him the face...I'm not saying that he's done as an artist but he won't be mentioned seriously anymore...but it also lets future MC's know this shyt can become a problem. And it gives the Joey Bad asses of the world a real sense of self worth for understanding and respecting the culture. They gotta RESPECT THE CULTURE THAT FEEDS THEM

 

[TrebleMan]

But look at the reality taking place before your eyes...if this was not a big deal Drake wouldn't have a percentage of his own fanbase givin him the face...I'm not saying that he's done as an artist but he won't be mentioned seriously anymore...but it also lets future MC's know this shyt can become a problem. And it gives the Joey Bad asses of the world a real sense of self worth for understanding and respecting the culture. They gotta RESPECT THE CULTURE THAT FEEDS THEM

We'll see man only time will tell. We get to see the reception objectively when "Views..." drops.

 

[NormanConnors]

All on Twitter and IG, nikkas still riding for that fraud smh

Meek's bars wasn't the best but a fraud is a fraud...

drake is fugazi ...
and he got pissed on

What I don't get is that there are emcees cosigning this chump on Twitter and etc, makes you wonder who else has a writing pool/ghostwriter and doesn't want their secret exposed

 

[Edub]

Drake isn't receiving an ass kicking tho...Views is gonna drop next month and go platinum quicker than IYRTITL...both these rappers are corporate...thats why 'street rapper' Meek had to release a single with Chris Brown & Nicki Minaj and get a verse from the hottest rapper in the game, to make that album sell...

Trust...Drake is definitely feeling the "it was all good just a week ago" way about this. This is not what his investors, sprite included, wanted to see. Is he going broke...no, but has he lost some market share, yes. The young real nikkas wit real older brothers or fathers ain't foolin' wit homie like that in the future, trust.

 

[JayGatsby]

May the real live forever baby
And the fake get exposed

Quentin threw shots and drake didn't even know it







QM:"May the real live forever baby,And the fake get exposed"

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you know the rules,

let me press record first......what should we call it though"



QM"not too sure.... you should "know yourself" "


drake"you're on fire buddy........sheeeet,jay isn't the only one who doesn't write down his lyrics"


*recording in session*








drake -