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Why is it necessary to plead with god not to allow bad things to happen?
 

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Why is it necessary to plead with god not to allow bad things to happen?
Not sure...

I ask bad things to not gappen and good things too or I ask for the strength/means to make it through a bad time...


I usually use prayer as a conversation of sorts.. Not really asking for too much and mainly showing appreciation for things while also talking about whats on my mind at the time.

Not sure if thats how you are supposed to pray but its how I did/do and what made sense to me. Others might be different.
 

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Why is it necessary to plead with god not to allow bad things to happen?

Within the framework of the god concept, it's not only unnecessary but detrimental to 'pray' for what you DON'T want. Prayer just focused thought, technically you're ALWAYS praying to some degree just by thinking. But when you sit down to actually focus that thought into a 'prayer', do so with desired outcomes in mind.

For example a lot of people pray for strength and then wonder why they endure hardship. You go to the gym and tell the trainer to make you strong he's going to hand you weights.

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Would my ancestors not have been enslaved if only they prayed harder?

Y'all got this notion that Africa was righteous before the attacks on it that has lead people to take over it and enslaved blacks.

If was Africa was so righteous there would of been no need, to teach ma'at (truth, justice, order)

Big as Africa is how can people take it over unless it was divided.

Everything is happening for a reason, that's why some African countries suffer more than others, think on that and you'll see Gods plan
 

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Y'all got this notion that Africa was righteous before the attacks on it that has lead people to take over it and enslaved blacks.

If was Africa was so righteous there would of been no need, to teach ma'at (truth, justice, order)

Big as Africa is how can people take it over unless it was divided.

Everything is happening for a reason, that's why some African countries suffer more than others, think on that and you'll see Gods plan

Oh great, so US slavery was a punishment by God and necessary to convert the heathens of Africa?

fukk your God. Get the fukk out of here. You sound like a damned slave master attempting to justify a crime against humanity.
 

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Not sure...

I ask bad things to not gappen and good things too or I ask for the strength/means to make it through a bad time...


I usually use prayer as a conversation of sorts.. Not really asking for too much and mainly showing appreciation for things while also talking about whats on my mind at the time.

Not sure if thats how you are supposed to pray but its how I did/do and what made sense to me. Others might be different.
Good point's was curious based off the Hurricane Irma thread.
 

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They did a study and had ppl pray for sick people and then had a group that no one prayed for. The ppl that were prayed for did significantly worse.

So either there's no god, he's not listening, or he goes out of his way to do the opposite of what people ask for
 

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Within the framework of the god concept, it's not only unnecessary but detrimental to 'pray' for what you DON'T want. Prayer just focused thought, technically you're ALWAYS praying to some degree just by thinking. But when you sit down to actually focus that thought into a 'prayer', do so with desired outcomes in mind.

For example a lot of people pray for strength and then wonder why they endure hardship. You go to the gym and tell the trainer to make you strong he's going to hand you weights.

:francis:
I don't agree with that prayer has a spiritual element.
 

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Oh great, so US slavery was a punishment by God and necessary to convert the heathens of Africa?

fukk your God. Get the fukk out of here. You sound like a damned slave master attempting to justify a crime against humanity.

And you sound like a child. When you did bad as a child you got punished, its only a child who feels they can get away with bad and shouldn't be dealt repercussions.

If there were no repercussions you wouldn't think to ever do good, you continue being a heathen.

God punishes correctly at all times. There is a story in Ancient Egypt called "destruction of humankind" where humans could lived as hundreds of years, etc and has power similar to Ra, and because of that people started to looked down on Ra and didn't care to look up to him, and cause of that Ra had to punish them

Now look at which African countries are suffering more than others and you'll figure out your answers.
 

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I don't agree with that prayer has a spiritual element.

What do you mean you don't agree? There is no separation between 'spirit' and everything else. If you believe in god, then 'it' is everything, everywhere, all the time. You are in constantly communication with whatever you think 'god' is. Every thought you think is a prayer.

If you're going to sit down and focus your thought/intention...leave the things that you DON'T want out of the equation.
 
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