Question to Atheists:: Why not take a chance and believe?

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Real serious question for all you Christian's

Who wrote the Old Testament????

Not a Christian, but.....​

About 40 different cats over the course of a thousand-plus years. Those texts were then rewritten about 500 BCE. The texts were edited, redacted, and updated several times.​
 
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This is not gonna make a lotta sense but believe it or not, a lotta atheists might actually be closer to heaven than a lot of true believers.
:hubie:
All paths ultimately lead to God. Some paths may take longer than others…and some paths people are on just prolong the trip and make it HELLishly long. People be taking all kinds of detours, hustling backwards, taking naps, getting lost…killing people and having to stop to bury bodies, setting traps for others and falling in em themselves, eating mushrooms, falling off cliffs, taking harder mountain roads just to spite other people, fighting bears:laff:, getting trolled by demons and all kinds of mischievous spirits, getting distracted by butterflies, blinded all types of shyt.

Atheists are just people who chose to walk the path without navigation.:hug:But their belief in themselves sometimes ends up working better for them than religious folks belief in God outside of themselves which blinds them to their own problems. Even Paul told ya’ll that in Romans.
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As somebody who knows God, it’s not my job to try and beat people over the head with my beliefs or spiritually harass them. God doesn’t require your defense. Instead, I’m supposed to live my life in such a way that the divine emanates through me. That emanation sparks curiosity and inspiration and sometimes it makes people wanna walk with you.

Work out your own path and stop worrying about others. Their non-belief is no threat to anyone else. In our own religion we are even told to leave others in other faiths alone. We are also told not to talk about who is going to Heaven or Hell. shyt, we are told to do a lotta stuff we don’t do.:mjlol:


Also religion is merely a guide…not an exhaustive Mandate of Heaven. It’s divinely inspired but funneled through human limitations, dishonesty and has been changed according to human agenda. It’s a starting place and we are meant to go far far beyond it. Otherwise, you can get just as lost on your path through dogma as that Satanist over there petitioning demons for powers humans already got.
:mjlol:Somehow on the way down, we all bumped our heads and forgot what we are/were/will be. In our frustration at ourselves, we often hyperfocus on others to distract from our own confusion. Because when you lost and feel like you are losing a race, you wanna at least feel better than somebody else.

Some people will remember in one lifetime. Others will take eternity to solve the mystery. But ultimately It’s unfukkable. Just a matter of how fast or slow you wanna get there. But stopping on your own journey to be preoccupied with somebody else’s journey will make your own path HELLishly long too. Trying to control others and dragging them down your path makes it HELLishly long too. Instead, love, walk and never stop. And you’d be surprised at how people just sometimes end up walking with you.
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We all gon make it.
And if I’m wrong, then I won’t be here to argue with you about it anyway, we’ll all be having dirt naps…:umad:

1 Corinthians 3:16-17
16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

 

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Not a Christian, but.....​

About 40 different cats over the course of a thousand-plus years. Those texts were then rewritten about 500 BCE. The texts were edited, redacted, and updated several times.​
So basically no one really knows?

Yet everyone just blindly follows this bullshyt?
 

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I'm an agnostic. I have no specific religious background (lived in "christian" environments). I'm absolutely open to the concept and idea of a Supreme Being, or various ones, and can def find beauty, power, wisdom, etc...in what I've seen of various faiths. I can't consider myself an atheist because I would not be surprised AT ALL if one or various Supreme Beings existed outside the realm of what I as a human can understand/perceive/see. And I can't just dismiss billions of believers over the centuries as absolute fools. But I'm not sure at all about how this or these Supreme Beings, if they exist, are portrayed/interpretated by fallible humans. How could our limited senses be able to depict a God? That being said, one thing I believe (:troll:) about faith is that you either have it or not. If you have it you can lose it, if you don't have it you can find it, or better yet it can find you. But it's not something you "decide" to have, it's not an investment or deciding to book a plane ticket. It's much more intimate and powerful than that, I assume it comes from elsewhere and from within. If God (assuming there's only one Supreme Being) is almighty and all-knowing, he'll also know that I'm trying to cheat him by "believing" just "in case". And I'll be cheating myself too in the process.

That's why I don't care much for those who "believe" only out of fear of Hell. Or those who "believe" just because tradition. They're not believers, they're comformists. Nothing wrong with that, but don't act all holier than thou.
 

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Because the process go as this.

Wild out until you're 60 , then turn into a religious zealot ready to judge everyone for living the same lifestyle you once lived.

I still have 30 more years to go before that phase.
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Iont get it… why not just let them believe what they want to believe…


I’m not about to try to debate with a homosexual man on how good pwussy is. That nikka like DYICK and the strong embrace of a muscular man!! And there’s nothing I can say to change it…ima let that man live and mind my business...
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I'm an agnostic. I have no specific religious background (lived in "christian" environments). I'm absolutely open to the concept and idea of a Supreme Being, or various ones, and can def find beauty, power, wisdom, etc...in what I've seen of various faiths. I can't consider myself an atheist because I would not be surprised AT ALL if one or various Supreme Beings existed outside the realm of what I as a human can understand/perceive/see. And I can't just dismiss billions of believers over the centuries as absolute fools. But I'm not sure at all about how this or these Supreme Beings, if they exist, are portrayed/interpretated by fallible humans. How could our limited senses be able to depict a God? That being said, one thing I believe (:troll:) about faith is that you either have it or not. If you have it you can lose it, if you don't have it you can find it, or better yet it can find you. But it's not something you "decide" to have, it's not an investment or deciding to book a plane ticket. It's much more intimate and powerful than that, I assume it comes from elsewhere and from within. If God (assuming there's only one Supreme Being) is almighty and all-knowing, he'll also know that I'm trying to cheat him by "believing" just "in case". And I'll be cheating myself too in the process.

That's why I don't care much for those who "believe" only out of fear of Hell. Or those who "believe" just because tradition. They're not believers, they're comformists. Nothing wrong with that, but don't act all holier than thou.
heaven as a separate realm and hell are norse concepts

the kingdom of heaven is at hand :youngsabo:

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So basically no one really knows?

Do you have to know who created something in order for it to be 'true'?
Yet everyone just blindly follows this bullshyt?

The Universe either has a reason for existing, or, it doesn't.

That's all 'theism' ultimately boils-down to.

All the other stuff is tradition.​
 
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Every single sentence here is wrong :mjlol:
Books of the New Testament are dated to the first century

the Dead Sea scrolls are even older
Right, those were back dates on some P Diddy remix shyt. And again, Christianity was the white mans intro to subjugate entire races of people (and still do to this day). I’m good bro
 

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Do you have to know who created something in order for it to be 'true'?


The Universe either has a reason for existing, or, it doesn't.

That's all 'theism' ultimately boils-down to.

All the other stuff is tradition.​
Umm yes tradition is literally why most people are a certain religion

And you're a naive dumbass if you believe something without having verifiable facts such as who wrote it
 

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What does logic have to do with anything?

I'm a deist. Belief in a higher power, especially of the one depicted in the Bible with the mystical works and such requires such a suspension of logic that I just can't give.

I posted this a few years ago, still applies.

After growing up in the church, I've comfortably settled into being a deist. My biggest fault with religion resides within myself. I simply started to ask questions and I really didn't like the answers coming my way. There was always a catch, a justification for something and in a lot of cases, nonsensical from my perspective. It took a long time for me to be comfortable with that. I struggle with the concept of faith in the context that the bible wants a person to believe in it. There is almost a suspension of belief that needs to happen and my mind simply will not allow for that to happen. Once I realized all of that, I had to settle on what my religious ideology ultimately resided. Deism is that I believe that something created all of this due to the rules that nature seems to follow, phenomena, etc. but in the case of Satan and the rest, no, I don't. The tenor of how god is presented is different between the old and new testament. Which one reflects the current one? You can pick story after story in the bible and I look and say, how do I follow something that appears to have a lower moral compass than I have for myself. I thought we were all god's children. Why is he directing the killing of innocent first-born children? Why did he flood the earth? Why did he make Abraham sacrifice his own daughter? The list goes on and on.

The story of Job is the biggest clusterfukk to me.

So, god and satan have a bet, so obviously they are on good enough terms to shoot the shyt with each other, place a friendly wager on the head of a person and his family, even though its prophesied in revelations that satan is going to get his shyt ultimately pushed in by god when it's all said and done. Anyways, they have a bet, god's idea by the way to have the bet that said that satan can fukk with Job in whatever say he pleases and Job will not curse god. Satan supposedly kills wife, kids, animals, gives the man boils, burns down his house and makes him poor and then Job questions gods, saying he wishes he was dead, god basically tells him to shut the fukk up and man up. Ultimately, Job gets new wealth, wife, kids, etc... To my questions.

  • Why does god need to prove something to someone when he (1) knows everything, (2) created satan and is going to fukk him up a few millenia from that date so satan's opinion doesn't matter.
  • From a human emotion side, you don't just off someone's family without there being residue of emotion there. You don't just replace a new family like you do a new washer and dryer brehs. So we are talking about multiple people killed for shyts and giggles here. That reads like a disney movie but this is supposedly real. My morality code siren is blaring like fukk just thinking about it

Not to mention that it is logistically impossible for all of the animals to fit in Noah's ark as described, like someone said, for predators and prey to sit together in harmony basically. He could have just had all the wicked people killed if he wanted to, flooding of assuredly, some decent people in the midst of it all, was a bit of overkill. Brehs, they thought the sun went around the earth in those days.


So, a lot of the lessons that the bible teaches should be common sense, don't kill, don't steal, basically live life by the golden rule. Do unto others as you would like done to you. Most times, things will work out in the long run.
 

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Do you have to know who created something in order for it to be 'true'?


The Universe either has a reason for existing, or, it doesn't.

That's all 'theism' ultimately boils-down to.

All the other stuff is tradition.​
Do Sims understand that they are sprites being controlled by a higher power? or do they believe they have free will?

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the fire is real for them but not for you...

We are living in a world of illusion

imagine a Sim who is aware that he is a Sim, within his world would he ever know that his origin was a CD? or that he had controls from the outside in the first place? Or would he live ignorantly? :jbhmm:

if the power was switched off his world would appear to evaporate in an instant.
 

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I'm a deist. Belief in a higher power, especially of the one depicted in the Bible with the mystical works and such requires such a suspension of logic that I just can't give.

I posted this a few years ago, still applies.
I broke down a Job in another thread here if youd like to read it

Where does God telling Abraham to kill his son rank as most fukked up things in the Bible

a better question is this, if christ is risen. Then he hasnt always has been? As we are byproduct of the action Genesis 1(and Gods angels).

how the word creates and manifests all of reality in real time, tirelessly is the true wonder



Translation:
Except the LORD build the house,
they labour in vain that build it;
except the LORD keep the city,
the watchman waketh but in vain.
Behold, He that keepeth Israel
doth neither slumber nor sleep,
doth neither slumber nor sleep,
He that keepeth Israel.
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