R.A. dikkey traded to the Jays

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Forget that dikkey is 38, and that he’s a knuckle-baller. Consider his performance — not just last season, when he won the National League Cy Young Award, but the past three years, when he averaged more than 200 innings per season and produced a 2.95 ERA.

This isn’t a fluke, folks. If dikkey was a conventional thrower — and yes, a bit younger — few would question this trade. dikkey’s strikeout rate increased in each of the past three seasons. His hit rate decreased, and his walk rate remained stable and low.

He’s athletic, he logs innings, he throws strikes. A rival executive puts it best, saying that dikkey has “found something.” The Jays are banking on him continuing his success — and likely on a below-market contract. Remember, they won a similar bet on right fielder Jose Bautista, whom they signed to a five-year, $65 million extension after a breakout season.

D’Arnaud, 23, and Syndergaard, 20, no doubt are talented, the Jays’ Nos. 1 and 3 prospects, according to Baseball America. But remember Justin Smoak? Jesus Montero? All of those other can’t-miss prospects who supposedly were too good to trade? Well, stuff happens. Not always, but often enough.

D’Arnaud has suffered a number of injuries — he had back trouble in 2010, suffered two concussions in ’11, tore a knee ligament last season
. If he stays healthy, he should develop into a potential All-Star, if not quite Buster Posey or Matt Wieters. But the Jays evidently are comfortable with J.P. Arencibia and Josh Thole, whom they would acquire in this trade.

Rosenthal: R.A. dikkey move shows Blue Jays know time is now - MLB News | FOX Sports on MSN
 

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Yup @Miggs we haven't made the playoffs in nearly 20 years

I've been a Fan for years and seen can't miss prospects like Alex Gonzales Aquino Lopez, Jacob brumfield, Travis snider etx

I want to win now the jays are still stacked with minor league pitching, plus there's always fa if anything
 
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That rotation, though...:gladbron: AA has seen and now raised Jerry DiPoto's '11 offseason.

I've already posted this, but can't say it enough: the AL Beast is gonna be so ill next year. I just hope the O's don't get left in the dust sitting on their hands while the other 4 teams wheel and deal.
 

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I think TD is a great return but there is somthing sad about the mets trading there only bright spot in years reeks of Tom sever to the reds

Nah. not quite. Seaver was a cornerstone to a World Championship and a pennant. Seaver also wasn't 38 years old at the time. If anything, letting Jose Reyes walk away last year was similar to the Seaver trade.
 

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Nah. not quite. Seaver was a cornerstone to a World Championship and a pennant. Seaver also wasn't 38 years old at the time. If anything, letting Jose Reyes walk away last year was similar to the Seaver trade.

That was all on the Wilpons... they wanted to sell more tickets.

Sandy has shown that he has absolutely no reluctance in trading players if the package offered is right.
 

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I think TD is a great return but there is somthing sad about the mets trading there only bright spot in years reeks of Tom sever to the reds

This is nothing like Seaver, dikkey was beloved by Mets fans but Seaver was the Franchise.

I hate to see dikkey go but this was a great move by the Mets.
 

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I hear what you are saying @Miggs . But you know what, I have been to over a 150 games since Joe touched them all(shyt I still some what remember the games I went to at the EX for fukk sakes). I do not give a fukk about our batting line up in 2016. Sure your doubts are a 100% correct, but like I said I don't give a fukk at this point.

AA has pushed the Jays Chips all in. Honestly if this does not work out, how bad are we really off compared to the last 20 years?

Man fukk it, I am all in with AA. At the very least I will not be pissed about paying my Rogers bill till June this year.. :yeshrug:

Just cuz you move ur chips in doesnt mean you make short sighted deals man...Jays are a contender RIGHT NOW if everyone stays healthy...Your rotation is beastly right now you dont need RA dikkey and you certainly dont need to trade a potential all star catcher to get him...

There is such a thing as contending as well trying to contend for the next 5 years as well...you dont do that by giving away all your top prospects in one off season...

If this deal gets finalized and they finish 3rd in '13 then where do you go ? Cant rely on DArnaud/Syndegaard to help you or net you anything then...

Again im all for moving ur chips in and trading them up to go for ships but do it smartly,do NOT mortgage future all stars in trades you dont need to make in the moment...
 
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Yup @Miggs we haven't made the playoffs in nearly 20 years

I've been a Fan for years and seen can't miss prospects like Alex Gonzales Aquino Lopez, Jacob brumfield, Travis snider etx

I want to win now the jays are still stacked with minor league pitching, plus there's always fa if anything



I always blamed the organization for Snider not panning out here...Constantly moving him up and down and not giving him adequate time in the OF to play and get a few seasons of ABs under his belt...
 
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Metsblog says that there has been a deal reached between dikkey and the Jays. :whew: I was nervous there might be a snag in their negotiations.

For those who say that this deal was dumb:

Now, as for the Mets, hat’s off to Sandy Alderson for working the market (twice in a year and half) to end up getting one of the top pitching prospects in baseball (Zach Wheeler) and again to get a top hitting prospects (D’Arnaud) all for just two players (with expiring contracts) in their late 30s. His goal is to build a new foundation, a new core of players to help create and sustain a winning franchise over the next five to 10 years, and these two kids are going to help that a lot.

We Mets fans might need a :smugsandy: smiley.
 

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Been saying since before the Bay signing the Mets need to tear it down and build an actual solid foundation, happy to see them finally doing just that. I know they will suck this year worse than they did last season but as a fan it's reassuring to finally see some sought of plan of building for the future. I'm sad to see dikkey go but this was the right move to make.

The Blue Jays are officially my AL Team now, dikkey and Reyes going against the Yanks
 

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Lmao @ dikkey being beloved

:why:

It's true though. I was at the game where he won #20 at home, and there were grown men in the crowd all :to:

The game was over and nobody wanted to leave. You know how easy it is to get people to leave Citi Field during a game? They couldn't do it that day. He was getting a standing ovation every time the order turned over because they didn't know if he was gonna come back.
 

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It's true though. I was at the game where he won #20 at home, and there were grown men in the crowd all :to:

The game was over and nobody wanted to leave. You know how easy it is to get people to leave Citi Field during a game? They couldn't do it that day. He was getting a standing ovation every time the order turned over because they didn't know if he was gonna come back.

Thats cause Mets fans had absolutely nothing else to cheer for.
 
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