Race & Nuclear Fallout - U.S.A

[DPresidential]

In the event of a catastrophic nuclear strike on the U.S. where - for the sake of this example - Washington D.C was ground zero:

What role would race play in the impending Nuclear fallout, if at all?

For sake of clarity, how would in play out in smaller rural areas and also the surviving big cities?

Spooky.

 

[SirReginald]

We would probably be taken out first I'd advise you brehs to create a bunker because that's what I'm gonna do.

 

[全能の神]

Hopefully I get wiped out with everyone else

 

[newworldafro]

How not vote for candidates that 2ant to slap box with a Bear with Dem Thangs.

 

[HellRell804]

It would be a hard reboot of society. Obviously major cities would be targeted so we'd have to start over again in rural areas. Im assuming there would be an emp to knock out electrical grid beforehand, so engineers, mechanics, survivalists, and men with structural building knowledge would be like gods among men.

There would also be a restructuring of classes, because the effeminate men who thrive in our current system would be practically useless in a survival setting. So traditional masculinity would come back in a big way. All those psychology and human services degrees would be uuseles. Women would scramble to reclaim discarded gender roles and the masculine feminist types would probably be ostracized from society if not banished.

Society would rebuild, things would get easier and in a few hundred years we'll just repeat the process and march towards another apocalypse.

 

[newarkhiphop]

In the event of a catastrophic nuclear strike on the U.S. where - for the sake of this example - Washington D.C was ground zero:

What role would race play in the impending Nuclear fallout, if at all?

For sake of clarity, how would in play out in smaller rural areas and also the surviving big cities?

Spooky.

One nuke hitting DC , would mean the temporary collapse of the country as we know it , that's RIP the whole East Coast including infrastructure such as ports and international airports. Casualties would be immediately in the six figures with the 7 figures over times .

Minorities of course would be the hardest hit because of lack of resources and living in densely populated areas , this would be especially evident during the fallout time .

As the fallout starts you would have to be at least past missouri for even a chance of initial survival past a couple of months. Big cities would be fukked , the bigger the city the more moving pieces to get it to operate . Collapse of the government = chaos . Suburbs and rural areas are best bet , but those are usually already tight knit communities who don't like outsiders so unless your a WASP you would be fukked .

End of the day it would pretty much be everyman on there own. Katrina was a small scale disaster and looked what happened . Those with either emergency preparedness or high level millitary expertise would fair the best , but still DC nuked, unless you are already in the woods of northern Montana or a underground bunker somewhere out west the effects of the nuclear fall out are catching up to you sooner or later

 

[CriticalThought]

Better to die in the blast, heat and pressure than to slowly be poisoned to death by radiation.

You better not be in those urban areas if that happens (if you survive the attack). A lot of bad shyt is gonna happen. I'd take my chances in rural areas. People who've known me and my family for generations. That social fabric is way stronger. Not to mention, the only thing left in urban areas will be atomic rats and roaches to consume with already poisoned water to drink that now has a double dose. It's the perfect killing field when you really think about it.

You can be fukked in rural areas when that wind shifts plus other factors. People who survived and got out the cities will eventually show up (drain on resources, not to mention most "careers" are built for modern society...Who needs a middle manager/account supervisor when the lights go out?) What real skills do they have they can use from the workplace in that setting?

But worst case scenario, no more supermarket, just have to get it out the woods, water and soil (if not contaminated). That's shyt country people do anyways, so they're way more built to survive a structural collapse than the average city person. When all that technology and ease goes, they're in serious shyt. Rural people will be left to rebuild because most city people would die within a month all else being even. How many of y'all ever hunted or fished what you ate? Even know how to make a fukking fire? Build some shyt? Y'all toast...enjoy it while it lasts. It's gonna look like the #16 seed against the #1 seed in the NCAA tourney. Won't be pretty.

People in urban areas who still have family in rural areas and can get back, well they'll fare infinitely better as long as they can make it back. I've had that convo with cousins a long time ago when all that was "conspiracy theory". They know the game plan. Just gotta make it back home and you'll have a chance. People automatically assume a government will come back, but that's normalcy bias, normalcy bias can and will get you fukked up in situations like that.

 

[DPresidential]

It would be a hard reboot of society. Obviously major cities would be targeted so we'd have to start over again in rural areas. Im assuming there would be an emp to knock out electrical grid beforehand, so engineers, mechanics, survivalists, and men with structural building knowledge would be like gods among men.

There would also be a restructuring of classes, because the effeminate men who thrive in our current system would be practically useless in a survival setting. So traditional masculinity would come back in a big way. All those psychology and human services degrees would be uuseles. Women would scramble to reclaim discarded gender roles and the masculine feminist types would probably be ostracized from society if not banished.

Society would rebuild, things would get easier and in a few hundred years we'll just repeat the process and march towards another apocalypse.

Great. fukking. Post.

Hell,

to focus back on my original scenario though, I want you to tell me your thoughts if, say, Russia decided not to go full maniac and only sent the order to do a limited nuclear strike, where LA and NY would go un-bombed.

What would you envision happening in those shell shocked big cities?

 

[DPresidential]

How far would decision making based on race directly affect nuclear fallout?

Clearly, past and current racial hostility has affecting living situations and who people consider "friends". I'm wondering outside of the indirect causes of race relations, would race be on the tip of people's minds when it came to resource collection, groupings, etc.

 

[HellRell804]

Great. fukking. Post.

Hell,

to focus back on my original scenario though, I want you to tell me your thoughts if, say, Russia decided not to go full maniac and only sent the order to do a limited nuclear strike, where LA and NY would go un-bombed.

What would you envision happening in those shell shocked big cities?

It would be like mad max. Because most cities are built away from natural resources, a "might=right" mentality would emerge regarding food and water and groups would form for protection. While the groups would have a racial component it would mostly be due to proximity. Black people would have it hardest because there would be a lot of white people living out there lawless fantasies of killing us without retribution. Things would probably devolve into a series of conflicts until a clear victor emerges or a unifying force brings the sides together

 

[Box Cutta]

How far would decision making based on race directly affect nuclear fallout?

Clearly, past and current racial hostility has affecting living situations and who people consider "friends". I'm wondering outside of the indirect causes of race relations, would race be on the tip of people's minds when it came to resource collection, groupings, etc.

It would be.

Someone already mentioned Katrina...I think think that many people (black or otherwise) don't understand some of the things that went on during that fiasco. Most people realize that race played a factor....but it was more than just government mismanagement and racist media coverage. There were cities that were completely blocked off from people trying to flee NO. I'm talking armed white men (Non-Law Enforcement) forming a line on streets, blocking off exits from people trying to flee the destruction. "No pass".

And of course, there are those stories of armed snipers straight up just picking people off....

A nuclear situation? It would be Katrina times 100.

And, assuming that we devolved into some truly doomsday, post-apocalyptic type of society...I give whites 5 years before significant groups of them are hunting down blacks for slave-labor. That The Walking Dead stuff is BULLshyt. Them cacs from Georgia ain't allowing blacks into the group like that in a real world scenario.

Don't ever underestimate how evil these people are.

 

[AYEESGEE]

I don't care what race you are if you are letting people in your survival group that you don't know personally as a good friend you're probably going to die.

 

[plushcarpet]

i think the higher classes would be protected by the military while the lower classes fall into tribal fueled anarchy

regardless of race

 

[ⒶⓁⒾⒶⓈ]

..it would be down to pure Luck...

you may be prepared and do everything right but the wind blows the fallout cloud to your area and the radioactive rain destroys your food and water supply and cooks you from the inside out .

Its probably gonna be better in the far rural areas but those areas will also be cut off from communication

But the best thing to do is stock up on Old world skills..how to make weapons,shoes,rope,tools,farm equipment,repairing engines,generators,First aid,Sewing up wounds,growing food organically,Ham radio,Basic chemistry to make soaps,disinfectants,Making alcohol

Learn a few of those and you will be a GOD amongst all these clowns with Degrees in Interior design,European literature and womens studies.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

It would be a hard reboot of society. Obviously major cities would be targeted so we'd have to start over again in rural areas. Im assuming there would be an emp to knock out electrical grid beforehand, so engineers, mechanics, survivalists, and men with structural building knowledge would be like gods among men.

I think you're exaggerating on the engineers/architects. Most people would be shocked to know how little practical knowledge 90% of people in those professions actually have.

It's the DOY tinkerers in their garage who tend to actually know how real shyt works. Some of that is overlap with engineers, but it's a minority of them.

Like you say, survivalists would be on point. Small-scale farmers too. Anyone who grew up rural the old-fashioned way and is used to doing shyt on their own.

One nuke hitting DC , would mean the temporary collapse of the country as we know it , that's RIP the whole East Coast including infrastructure such as ports and international airports. Casualties would be immediately in the six figures with the 7 figures over times .

I'm interested in how true this is. Like, how reliant are other cities on DC central control? How much redundancy is there in both human command systems and the hardware?

I honestly don't know the answer to that one.