Racist targets being sold at gun shows

[CriticalThought]

Cars are getting safer. You have to be licensed to own an operate one. And insurance takes care of lots of those costs associated with the harm from car accidents.

And one of these things are is MADE to kill and the other gets you from A to B. So ya know, apples and oranges and stuff.

Well only if you don't believe in the Constitution. Gun ownership is a right. Driving a car is a privilege. That's why you need a license. You know what a license really means right? Said activity is illegal unless the powers that be say its acceptable to engage in said illegal activity. That can be taken away at a moments notice. You're right it is apples to oranges. I don't need a license to own a gun. I don't need insurance to own a gun. Those rights come from the Constitution...ya know the Bill of Rights part of in case you didn't know. That right has been impeded too far already. Good luck repealing that amendment if you think you can.

Yes, guns are designed to kill. Guns also protect and save lives. Cars weren't designed to kill, but cars can kill if used improperly. Like most anything else. No amount of insurance will bring those killed back to life will it? Pretending those guns load themselves, aim themselves and kill people independently is ridiculous argument at best. Sorry...no amount of dead people will change millions of Americans having that right.

 

[DAlbert]

I hate going to gun shows. I feel so uncomfortable there and it's not the guns that make me feel that way...

real fukk shyt

I remember the first time I went to a gunrange too, nervous as shyt

at gun shows, I'm in and fukking out

 

[Handsback]

Well only if you don't believe in the Constitution. Gun ownership is a right. Driving a car is a privilege. That's why you need a license. You know what a license really means right? Said activity is illegal unless the powers that be say its acceptable to engage in said illegal activity. That can be taken away at a moments notice. You're right it is apples to oranges. I don't need a license to own a gun. I don't need insurance to own a gun. Those rights come from the Constitution...ya know the Bill of Rights part of in case you didn't know. That right has been impeded too far already. Good luck repealing that amendment if you think you can.

Yes, guns are designed to kill. Guns also protect and save lives. Cars weren't designed to kill, but cars can kill if used improperly. Like most anything else. No amount of insurance will bring those killed back to life will it? Pretending those guns load themselves, aim themselves and kill people independently is ridiculous argument at best. Sorry...no amount of dead people will change millions of Americans having that right.

Oh no it absolutely is a right. No argument there. This isn't an issue of CAN, it's an issue of SHOULD. You also have the right to cuss out old folks but we all know that makes you a prick. Same deal with open carry or having your 9 year old shoot fully automatic weapons at theme parks in Vegas.

And you brought up the car comparison, I didn't.

Guns save far fewer lives than they take. Defensive use is minuscule when compared to outright homicide, suicide, and accidental shootings. They happen sometimes though.

And that's my point. Lots of people aren't responsible enough to own them. Thousands of "accidental discharges" that hit people every year. All by "responsible gun owners." Until they aren't.

Economists deal with something called externalities: costs borne by people outside of a transaction. Those healthcare costs resulting from shootings aren't passed on to just firearms owners like they are with car drivers, they're passed on to ALL taxpayers. That's where the insurance piece comes up.

Lol and yes this is America. Thirty dead 8 year olds wasn't enough to get us to enact the most reasonable and widely popular legislation. It seems that nothing will get us to use a little common sense.

 

[Smokin Rider]

If this guy has kids, the coli needs to make targets of them and sell them for 10 cents a piece and use the slogan "they're just targets" I'd buy 50.

 

[CriticalThought]

Oh no it absolutely is a right. No argument there. This isn't an issue of CAN, it's an issue of SHOULD. You also have the right to cuss out old folks but we all know that makes you a prick. Same deal with open carry or having your 9 year old shoot fully automatic weapons at theme parks in Vegas.

And you brought up the car comparison, I didn't.

Guns save far fewer lives than they take. Defensive use is minuscule when compared to outright homicide, suicide, and accidental shootings. They happen sometimes though.

And that's my point. Lots of people aren't responsible enough to own them. Thousands of "accidental discharges" that hit people every year. All by "responsible gun owners." Until they aren't.

Economists deal with something called externalities: costs borne by people outside of a transaction. Those healthcare costs resulting from shootings aren't passed on to just firearms owners like they are with car drivers, they're passed on to ALL taxpayers. That's where the insurance piece comes up.

Lol and yes this is America. Thirty dead 8 year olds wasn't enough to get us to enact the most reasonable and widely popular legislation. It seems that nothing will get us to use a little common sense.

What you consider a spill over cost I partially view as a spill over benefit. Look at it this way...Darwin awards for any and everyone. Guns have one end. Even with an accidental discharge there was some recklessness/negligence involved. Guns can't shoot if there's no ammo loaded. Can't hit someone unless the barrel is pointed in that person's direction. If people refuse to engage in safe practices then that's their choice. There's no policing that. Insurance rates are passed on to certain demographic groups collectively like car insurance and are determined by the carriers (I guess be glad there's Obamacare now ).

If you want to jump out of a plane and your 'chute doesn't open
If you want to bungee off a bridge and rope is too long or snaps
If you want to drink and potentially kill yourself from alcohol poisoning

All the rational steps have been taken towards gun ownership. Common sense isn't common and you can't legislate it or police it. Have to let people live their life. shyt happens and that's that. Franklin said it best “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

 

[Handsback]

What you consider a spill over cost I partially view as a spill over benefit. Look at it this way...Darwin awards for any and everyone. Guns have one end. Even with an accidental discharge there was some recklessness/negligence involved. Guns can't shoot if there's no ammo loaded. Can't hit someone unless the barrel is pointed in that person's direction. If people refuse to engage in safe practices then that's their choice. There's no policing that. Insurance rates are passed on to certain demographic groups collectively like car insurance and are determined by the carriers (I guess be glad there's Obamacare now ).

If you want to jump out of a plane and your 'chute doesn't open
If you want to bungee off a bridge and rope is too long or snaps
If you want to drink and potentially kill yourself from alcohol poisoning

All the rational steps have been taken towards gun ownership. Common sense isn't common and you can't legislate it or police it. Have to let people live their life. shyt happens and that's that. Franklin said it best “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

So a five year old finding a gun and shooting his three year old sister is just natural selection. Cool deal.

And you missed how the insurance/externalities/firearms don't JUST shoot their owners thing is supposed to work. But you missed out on how empathy is supposed to work too so I'm not gonna split hairs.

 

[CriticalThought]

So a five year old finding a gun and shooting his three year old sister is just natural selection. Cool deal.

And you missed how the insurance/externalities/firearms don't JUST shoot their owners thing is supposed to work. But you missed out on how empathy is supposed to work too so I'm not gonna split hairs.

Hey gotta draw a line somewhere. Where does it end? Ban cars because people get hurt? Cellphones because of radiation? Soda because of obesity? I don't want to live in that authoritarian hell and neither do most people. Ask the parents why a kid got a hold of a loaded gun not me. Empathy is something I'm in short supply of these days...sorry. My condolences are for people who do the right thing and get a raw deal. Not some jackass who lets their kid get ahold of a damn gun. Guess they never heard store it in a safe. Place the gun where a kid can't reach. No ammo near/in the gun. Common sense solutions that would have avoided that. Ask them why didn't they give a shyt about their kid's life to even expose them to that level of danger. Now I have to lose my guns because of it? fukk no.

 

[Supercoolmayo]

If you hug a white guy with a gun, he can't aim properly and shoot you

 

[pawdalaw]

At least the organizers banned him from future shows.
at how nonchalant he was about it though.

 

[AntiVenom]

@AntiVenom

What are you tagging me for exactly?

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

The end is near brothers. They will be wipe clean from the face of th earth. Be patience and Keep GOD's laws

 

[the cac mamba]

My Grandad was a medic in the military in the 50's. I don't know what conflict he was in, I could call and ask but I'm lazy and you'll just have to accept this as hearsay. But he told me that through some series of events that he had to treat a wounded white soldier.

And you know what the dude told him.

"I'd rather DIE, before I let a ****** touch me"
.

hopefully he obliged him