Raekwon-Jay-z is the GOAT.

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Don't edit your shyt.

You just made my point.

He didn't crossover until Hard Knock Life.
He dumbed down his lyrics to drop albums like Blueprint and Black Album.
Just like Eminem dumbed down his shyt to drop classics like MMLP, instead of super lyrical shyt like Infinite.

What does crossover have to do with anything you little retard? Being a relevant rapper does equal crossing over to being a popstar.
His singles charted on HOT100, he was selling out small east coast tours, he went gold, he was on YO Mtv raps, performing street joints on MTV, featured on hit songs by Foxy, collabos with Big and the list goes on YET he wasn't relevant :yawn:.


You are too unknown on this board to be talking all that shyt boy.
 

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Saying Jay is the greatest ever is a very logical conclusion and held by many. Anyone acting like Jay doesn't have claim to being the GOAT is lying to themselves
you forget what site you're on
 

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How the fukk is what he said grove long and ass kissing? WTF?
I'm not talking about just that quote. He's been trying to be on everybody's song lately and he used to never do guest features outside of a select few. He seems like he's hurting for money and recognition. I heard him on the radio in VA recently and he sounded like he was about to cry when he was reminiscing about the Wu glory days. And he's still very salty at RZA about their money dispute.

It's just kinda sad to see the once-mighty author of the purple tape who gave so little of a fukk that he dissed a prime Biggie looking like this.
 

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He dumbed down his lyrics to drop albums like Blueprint and Black Album.
Just like Eminem dumbed down his shyt to drop classics like MMLP, instead of super lyrical shyt like Infinite.

What does crossover have to do with anything you little retard? Being a relevant rapper does equal crossing over to being a popstar.
His singles charted on HOT100, he was selling out small east coast tours, he went gold, he was on YO Mtv raps, performing street joints on MTV, featured on hit songs by Foxy, collabos with Big and the list goes on YET he wasn't relevant :yawn:.


You are too unknown on this board to be talking all that shyt boy.

Em didn't dumb down his lyrics to make MMLP. He just got caught off guard at the criticism that he sounded like Nas & AZ and found his own voice.

Crossover has everything to do with being relevant. Do you know what that word means?

Again, Gold at the time wasn't that big of a deal. He was Foxy's bytch at the time.

I'm not resorting to name calling, I'm just using analogies.

No one's talking shyt, just facts.
 

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Someone says Nas is the goat
Nas stans: Well we have the same taste in music

Someone says Jay-z is the goat
Nas stans: Well we have the same taste in music, he's just dikkriding.

No one has said that when you made this post or came close to it. The nerve of you of all people to call dudes dikkriders and stans...
 

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Em didn't dumb down his lyrics to make MMLP. He just got caught off guard at the criticism that he sounded like Nas & AZ and found his own voice.

Crossover has everything to do with being relevant. Do you know what that word means?

Again, Gold at the time wasn't that big of a deal. He was Foxy's bytch at the time.

I'm not resorting to name calling, I'm just using analogies.

No one's talking shyt, just facts.
I'm not calling you names, I actually believe that you suffer from retardation, however..
There are different meanings to crossover, but if you want to go by the original definition DMX was the biggest rapper at one point but was only on the hiphop charts and not the pop charts, which indicates that he didn't crossover.

Foxy Brown was a bigger artist, how is that relevant though? She was a bigger artis on a major label and sold a million records. Bone Thugs were bigger than Biggie, does that mean that he wasn't relevant in 94, 95? Even with #1 songs and shyt.

And Em definitely dumbed down his lyrics, a majority of his fanbase were kids who could understand most of his lyrics (if they were smart) but them understanding Infinite would be highly unlikely. It was a more pleasant sound, more radio friendly songs; duke was even singing at several points and on but it also made for better music.


And again, no one is saying that he was a BIG DEAL, just that he was a relevant rapper. There were big deals like Pac, Fugees, Snoop, Big and Bone then you had pretty big rappers like Outkast, Foxy, Lil Kim, Meth, Nas, LL and then you have relevant rappers like Raekwon, Ghostface, KRS, Tribe, Mobb deep, Jay-z, E-40, Face and on. While Jay-z might've been closer to not being relevant than to being with the big rappers he was still relevant moving the same units, charting the same position with the singles and performing on the same TV shows.
 
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No one has said that when you made this post or came close to it. The nerve of you of all people to call dudes dikkriders and stans...
basicly rae wants to be relevant again so he´s kissing ass..too bad that the ass he´s kissing almost as "out" as he is
it's politics..


and raekwon will be like..

aiight then let's do this..
It's sad to see Raekwon doing so much groveling and asskissing lately. :smh: these old nikkas looking like a black Ric Flair and Arn Anderson.

Jay-Rae.jpg


Were the ones that inspired the post.


And you can't quote me dikkriding anywhere, I'm justifying my opinion of him being relevant but as usual thickskulled retards need several posts to understand shyt.
 

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U cant be mad if someone thinks Jay Z is the goat considering his longevity, hes been relevant since I was 3.. I personally have him 2nd all time after Pac:myman:
Nothing wrong with that. I got G Rap and Nas but if someone says Pac BIG or Hov its you cant go wrong
 

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So everyone not dikkriding Jay is a Nas stan now :leon: Had Rae said that about Nas, yall jigga warriors would be fast to call him irrelevant, he and Nas lost... Miss me with this bullshyt, I seen it happen countless times :pachaha:
 

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You gotta love the assumptions and conspiracy theories on here. :dead:.
If he said your favorite rapper was the GOAT or one of the best in the game you would be :salute: Rae like there was no tomorrow. I guess some forget that music is very subjective. :yeshrug:
 

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I always say it, you laugh but yet you can't quote me..

Note that nowhere did I say that I agreed with Rae and I didn't comment on his sincerity either cause I don't know him personally.
That right there is dikkriding, when you are so delusional that you build up this fantasy relationship with rappers.

All I've said is that Jay was relevant and that people in this thread are delusional and miserable fukks for dissing a nikka for expressing his opinion on the quality of a fukking entertainer.
 
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