Raekwon-Jay-z is the GOAT.

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I'm not calling you names, I actually believe that you suffer from retardation, however..
There are different meanings to crossover, but if you want to go by the original definition DMX was the biggest rapper at one point but was only on the hiphop charts and not the pop charts, which indicates that he didn't crossover.

I don't think you know how developmental disorders work. I don't have them. You have resorted to name calling. A weakness, but I can't help you there. You also seem to place a lot of value on your presence on this board. Sad. DMX did crossover, otherwise white kids wouldn't have made him platinum on his DEBUT.

Foxy Brown was a bigger artist, how is that relevant though? She was a bigger artis on a major label and sold a million records. Bone Thugs were bigger than Biggie, does that mean that he wasn't relevant in 94, 95? Even with #1 songs and shyt.

Biggie and BTAH were both platinum which was my original point. Your lack of cognitive ability seems to be an issue.

And Em definitely dumbed down his lyrics, a majority of his fanbase were kids who could understand most of his lyrics (if they were smart) but them understanding Infinite would be highly unlikely. It was a more pleasant sound, more radio friendly songs and on but it also made for better music.

I simply disagree and you would make a better case with the Slim Shady LP. Don't worry. I'll help you.

And again, no one is saying that he was a BIG DEAL, just that he was a relevant rapper. There were big deals like Pac, Fugees, Snoop, Big and Bone then you had pretty big rappers like Outkast, Foxy, Lil Kim, Meth, Nas, LL and then you have relevant rappers like Raekwon, Ghostface, KRS, Tribe, Jay-z, E-40, Face and on. While Jay-z might've been closer to not being relevant than to being with the big rappers he was still relevant moving the same units, charting the same position with the singles and performing on the same TV shows.

The bolded had crossover'd/ I don't know what the purple tape or Tribe was doing sales wise at the time, but the rest were getting by on past reputation besides Jay. Jay Z was still trying to break through since '88.
 

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Saying Jay is the greatest ever is a very logical conclusion and held by many. Anyone acting like Jay doesn't have claim to being the GOAT is lying to themselves
This. I think some of you fail to realize just how hard it is to maintain longevity, not just in hip hop but music period. Almost 20 years later and dude is still in high demand. Yes he has put out sub par material here and there, just like EVERY OTHER RAPPER. But overall career, nobody is fukkin wit Jigga.

The GOAT of just straight rapping, not considering career achievements at all, could legit go to about 10 different dudes.
 

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raekwon a fat sell out
 
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