Rakim Discusses Jazz Musician John Coltrane Influence on His Writing Technique w/KRS-One

[KillSpray]

actually u wrong most time signatures in rap are 4/4 there are some that are not that and some are more complex but for the most part it's 4/4

now u can experiment with how u rhyme on the instrumental u can place rhymes wherever u want but most dudes rhyme perfectly on the snare 2 and 4 beat
because it sounds better but u can also do syncopation or do something called rest where u don't rhyme nothing at all or no syllable is there is just blanked.

also i disagree with your view on how pac rhymed pac placed his rhymes all over the beat and used syncopated rhythms and did rest sometimes.

combine that with meter where it is basically the rhythm of stress and unstressed syllables then u can understand why biggie rakim twista pac have great flows

Yeah that's what I'm saying, the beats are usually in 4/4 but the rapper isn't rhyming in a different time signature. You'd have to repeat the exact pattern over and over to even rap in a time signature, if that's even possible.

Like you said it's syncopation, the rapper is still rapping to the beat though.

You might think it sounds better to rhyme to the snare, I personally don't think it's a matter of better or worse, when something musically doesn't meet our expectation it can feel unsettling, that can be used artfully and it's up to the listener to decide if they like it.


That's why not everyone will appreciate kool Keith's flow. I happen to appreciate it tho.

You right,i over simplified pacs flow, but in the all eyes on me era he did tend to use that 1/16 bouncy hihat flow a lot. I love that flow too.

 

[pointproven214]

Yeah that's what I'm saying, the beats are usually in 4/4 but the rapper isn't rhyming in a different time signature. You'd have to repeat the exact pattern over and over to even rap in a time signature, if that's even possible.

Like you said it's syncopation, the rapper is still rapping to the beat though.

You might think it sounds better to rhyme to the snare, I personally don't think it's a matter of better or worse, when something musically doesn't meet our expectation it can feel unsettling, that can be used artfully and it's up to the listener to decide if they like it.


That's why not everyone will appreciate kool Keith's flow. I happen to appreciate it tho.

You right,i over simplified pacs flow, but in the all eyes on me era he did tend to use that 1/16 bouncy hihat flow a lot. I love that flow too.

first off i want to say i appreciate the fact u talking about the technical aspects of rapping like time signatures bar mesaures

but u not repeating the same pattern as far as the way u rhyme on the different parts of the instrumental
u just repeating how u counting the bars according to the time signature.

 

[Sane]

Hey plays the Sax as well the gawd

 

[THE 101]

I've always thought this about Ra's flow.

It's kinda seamless and like Coltrane it's complex but melodic at the same time.

I kinda feel like Ra get's overlooked in terms of his flowing abilties because people focus on his lyrics so much but he's definitely one of the best flowers ever.

 

[Guess Who]

Incredible thread.

I fukking love rap music.

 

[10bandz]

bump for the mans birthday

 

[Groot]

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We are Grooooot!

 

[IronFist]

Top ten for me.

 

[mson]

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Bump for the book release

 

[ahdsend]

Bump for the book release

from the book...

 

[KingsOfKings]

Happy belated to The goat

 

[KingsOfKings]

Will never be another

 

[TV]

KRS should have his own podcast

 

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