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doubt it. He's not dropping to 8 , those 2 games he played won't drop his stock that much + his medicals(if good) and workouts will show he's better than most of the top 7 projected players.
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doubt it. He's not dropping to 8 , those 2 games he played won't drop his stock that much + his medicals(if good) and workouts will show he's better than most of the top 7 projected players.
Take Bamba, let Vucci walk at the end of next year or trade him
The PG position is too stacked for me to just draft one because I need one, that's how you end up with Elfrid Payton. These are modern bigs in this years draft, guys who can stretch the floor and protect the rim, next years draft is just Bol Bol and not much else, and I'd say Ayton and Bamba are better prospects than him. And you're risking your job trading down to take Sexton even though Bamba is on the board, sorry but the potential to have a player like Rudy Gobert that can also shoot threes is kind of hard to pass up. If you take Sexton/Young and Bamba turns into what he's projected to be you'll lose your job. I think Hammond definitely has the leash to take a chance on Exum, and he's honestly the type of player Hammond likes.
You're trying to give Rubio big credit for this, if you had said Mitchell deserved credit for it I wouldn't have said anything other than Gobert deserves a lot more. But, you saying Rubio deserves big credit for this is
cause you skipped right over Gobert and Mitchell to give him props. We not about to do that, the big credit goes to Gobert, after that you can doll out credit how you want, but he's got the biggest credit line on the team, again they have been playing HISTORIC levels of defense since he's been back, not just good or great, but historically good. You had no problem with Rubio in theory, the 2 years it took for him to come over, then the several years on non-playoff basketball got a long leash. How about we extend that to Exum as well
tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
Take Bamba, let Vucci walk at the end of next year or trade him
If it's so stacked then Orlando in their last year of having some money better upgrade from Augustin.
You're really not though. Maxing out Gordon is a bigger risk than trading down to draft Sexton unless you don't think Sexton is any good. Again I say, if you want a Bamba or a Bagley or whoever BPA is, cool, but then you gotta rid yourself of the cluster. Orlando hasn't shown themselves to be willing to do that, and even in one year that includes Hammond.
what you said said:Gobert is the reason for their run, they were sub .500 without him, we not about to give "big" credit to anyone but him
Cut the bullshyt.
But, you saying Rubio deserves big credit for this is
It wasn't a credit contest breh. I don't have to bring up anybody else on the team to highlight someone else's contributions, which is all I did. If I felt like showing Ingles love for justifying his first year of his big contract I don't have to bring up Gobert or Mitchell or Rubio or whoever else to say that. You saw Rubio getting a positive mention and saw red for no reason.
Don't shoot yourself in the face by making this comparison. Don't even try it.You had no problem with Rubio in theory, the 2 years it took for him to come over, then the several years on non-playoff basketball got a long leash. How about we extend that to Exum as well
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It being stacked doesn't mean there's guys on the FA market like that, but there is a 22 year old who could be a high level starter and you may be able to get him on a deal lower than what starting level PGs make.
I don't think Sexton is good enough to pass on Bamba, who will most likely be there at 4. And ridding themselves of the clutter is letting Vucci walk at the end of the season if you can't find a trade partner. Also, having Isaac gives them more room to make a decision on Gordon, I actually think they should keep him and play the two of them together at the 3 & 4, as long as they have a big who can guard the paint & shoot which they don't have.
Also, what if they get the first pick? Should they not take Ayton because these decisions would still exist with him, and if the take Doncic 1 they'd have a new set of problems.
It was a contest, for as negative as you say I am about Rubio you are equally as positive, you just bypassed everyone to throw praise at Rubio
We are yin and yang to the Rubio sphere.True, I actually like how Exum projects and I'd be disappointed if he ended up on Rubios level.
His name is Fred Van Vleet.
tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
But you're paying 3x the amount for an unknown. That's the risk. There IS a risk in doing that. If there wasn't, there wouldn't be a price on Exum that Utah wouldn't match, so they'd be shyt outta luck anyway.
What part of trade down completely flew over your head? I didn't say take a PG straight up. I said move down for one, and I clearly said don't go BPA just cuz. I'm not saying don't draft better players than Sexton. I'm saying PG is their biggest need. If you trade Vucci or let Gordon go or trade Fournier that changes, but like I say, If I've committed to a player like a Fournier or a Gordon, don't pick a player who plays their positions. That's what got them to where they are now.
It was a contest, for as negative as you say I am about Rubio you are equally as positive, you just bypassed everyone to throw praise at Rubio
I don't have to bypass anyone to single someone out. The fukk kinda logic is this?
Bigblackted4
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Bigger and better but that was the idea
Lakerman0834
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fukking Orlando should be contracted.
Could have a team with oladipo/Sabonis/Saric/Gordon instead have trash squad
Could have a team with oladipo/Sabonis/Saric/Gordon instead have trash squad
tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
Three of those guys play the same position which kinda proves my point about their shortcomings
He's more of a known commodity than Sexton or Young, the PGs in the draft this year aren't great. I'd rather roll the dice, draft one of those bigs and then sign Exum than to trade down, take Sexton/Young because.
I'm not reading it as taking Sexton at 4, I know you're talking about trading down, but the fact remains that you'd be passing on Bamba for Sexton which is ridiculous. Bruh, they did exactly what you're talking about and it backfired, they needed a PG and rather than sticking with BPA they traded Saric for Payton, only to need to draft Isaac a few years later because Gordon does look like he can play the 3.
So, would you trade down from 1 rather than taking Ayton, because you haven't answered that.
You acting like we don't know the others motives. Of course you're going to single Rubio out, I could have been talking about Joe Ingles and you would have found a way to mention how he can't shoot unless Rubio is passing to him.
Which 3?
Sabonis has played the majority of his minutes at the 5 this year.
It's too early to say what Isaac can and can't guard, and we know Gordon can guard 3s. Also, Saric is playing on a team with 2 other forwards who would have been PFs a few years ago, matter of fact Covington was a PF for a few years before they moved him to the 3.
You gotta get your mind out of the positions, even then Gordon can guard 3s.
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tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
I'd disagree and say Exum is still very much an unknown. 4 years in and we're still discussing what he might be without having any answers as to what he is.
But back to my point in that regard, don't take a player because BPA when you're already committing to someone there. Your scenario doesn't even conflict with that. You're saying take a 5 and get rid of the one you have. You're not disagreeing with my logic so why are you still bringing this up? Exum being a risk is a separate matter, but what you're still doing is addressing a need. If you said take Michael Porter because he's BPA then you're clueless considering what you've committed to.
I'm NOT saying pass up Bamba for Sexton though!
Gordon ain't no 3. He's been at the 4 all year and that's where he performs best. If Isaac is gonna succeed anywhere it'll be as a 3 because he physically is too puny to to put the mass needed and it looks to be that way for a while.
As for Saric, that Magic team had Gordon, Tobias Harris, and wound up signing Channing Frye on a big 4 year deal. That team didn't need a Saric. Knowing what we know about that team, there's a better chance he winds up like Hezonja and you know it.
Take Ayton and trade Vucevic. I'm telling you Orlando hasn't been inclined to do shyt like this though. They'd do some shyt like draft Bamba, re-sign Vucevic to a 4 year deal, have Bamba behind Biyombo on their depth chart and then wonder why they're not progressing. Clusterfukk city.
Of course you're going to single Rubio out, I could have been talking about Joe Ingles and you would have found a way to mention how he can't shoot unless Rubio is passing to him.
What motive did I have? This is the dumb shyt here I don't understand. I don't have a motive behind what I said besides saying it. YOU however on the other hand, do. You're the one with the agita towards him. I don't gain or lose anything based on someone else's performance. I'm way too blunt to play these stupid games on here. I'm way more objective than you're giving me credit for. I'll shyt on whoever and give whoever props if warranted.