Rank Em: 2009 Chris Paul, 2011 Derrick Rose, 2015 Stephen Curry

[ManBearPig]

YOU CLEARLY DIDNT WATCH THAT POSTSEASON...
HAVING A DUDE WHO COULD DROP 37
IN A QUARTER
WOULD HAVE OPENED THE FLOOR FOR ROSE.

THEY WERE SAGGING OFF EVERYBODY
HELPING ON ROSE...
YOU CANT SAG OFF KLAY.

ROSE SHOT 47% FROM THE FIELD
HIS 1ST 3 SEASONS IN THE L.
WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

HES ONLY PLAYED 100 INJURY PLAGUED GAMES
SINCE HIS 3RD SEASON.

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That's like telling what Malone could do with Pippen


MJ>>>Malone

Curry >> Rose

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

He can't score on the level of Curry. If that's what you meant, then I agree

No, I meant exactly what I said. Paul isn't capable of carrying the #1 scoring load, not necessarily because he doesn't have the ability, but because he's a pass-first player. He's not going to lead every series as the top scorer, he doesn't have the mental makeup of being one. He passes up too many shots to carry a team deep in the playoffs - one of the main reasons why he hasn't moved past the second round.

 

[TheyCallMeAzul]

YOU CLEARLY DIDNT WATCH THAT POSTSEASON...
HAVING A DUDE WHO COULD DROP 37
IN A QUARTER
WOULD HAVE OPENED THE FLOOR FOR ROSE.

THEY WERE SAGGING OFF EVERYBODY
HELPING ON ROSE...
YOU CANT SAG OFF KLAY.

ROSE SHOT 47% FROM THE FIELD
HIS 1ST 3 SEASONS IN THE L.
WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

HES ONLY PLAYED 100 INJURY PLAGUED GAMES
SINCE HIS 3RD SEASON.

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Lol at posting the cumulative percentage knowing the season we're discussing is the worst of the 3. Yes Klay would help them. He can't magically score without the ball tho. Rose probably would be a bit more efficient but take fewer shots. He averaged 27 per in that postseason. Numbers wise it'd be a wash

 

[TheyCallMeAzul]

LOL IT TOOK YOU THAT LONG TO COME UP WITH THIS WEAK REPLY
AFTER YOU POSTED THAT SILLY shyt?

HE SHOT 45% THAT SEASON...
INEFFICIENT HUH?






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He shot 40% in the playoffs which is what I thought we were discussing

 

[TheyCallMeAzul]

NAH nikka YOU SAID
ROSE IS AN INEFFICIENT SCORER.
YOU WERENT TALKING ABOUT THE 2011 PLAYOFFS.

I MADE THAT COMMENT LOOK STUPID...
YOU AVOIDED MY POST FOR AN HOUR
AND NOW YOU PLAYING DUMB.

KILL YASELF.



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My initial reply was to the hypothetical of the Bulls having Klay in the 2011 playoffs. How is that not what I was talking about breh? . You went off on the tangent about a portion of the response

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Curry
Paul
Rose

It's really close between Curry and Paul, but Curry's otherworldly shooting gives him the edge. He's just a greater weapon.

Even you know this isn't close between Curry and 09 Paul. We saw how Paul reacted in the face of adversity in the playoffs. He'd fold against Memphis in the second round. Especially since he was never going to take 22 shots a game (at the very least) - a basic measuring stick of how much one would need to take to carry a team.

 

[Regular_P]

Even you know this isn't close between Curry and 09 Paul. We saw how Paul reacted in the face of adversity in the playoffs. He'd fold against Memphis in the second round. Especially since he was never going to take 22 shots a game (at the very least) - a basic measuring stick of how much one would need to take to carry a team.

I can't explain what happened in the postseason with Paul. Biggest dud of his career, which was surprising considering how great he was in the '08 playoffs. Regular season is factoring into this though and he was an animal that year.

You know I wish he shot more. I say that in every game thread when he decides to get aggressive and start throwing up shots. He's still efficient and gets any look he wants.

The guy is a surefire Hall of Famer and I think he's sold himself short.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

I can't explain what happened in the postseason with Paul. Biggest dud of his career, which was surprising considering how great he was in the '08 playoffs. Regular season is factoring into this though and he was an animal that year.

You know I wish he shot more. I say that in every game thread when he decides to get aggressive and start throwing up shots. He's still efficient and gets any look he wants.

The guy is a surefire Hall of Famer and I think he's sold himself short.

Then you have to take into account that CP averaged six more minutes. I mean if Curry averaged the same amount of minutes as Paul did, he'd average -

28.0 ppg and 9.0 assists.

You could argue that amount of minutes may compromise Curry's health, yet that's basically a picture of what #s he'd put had he played more 4th quarters. I mean we saw what he was capable of in the playoffs, when playing close to 40 minutes - which is considerably better than where Paul was at 23-24 years old.

I agree, he's definitely sold himself short over his career.

 

[Regular_P]

Then you have to take into account that CP averaged six more minutes. I mean if Curry averaged the same amount of minutes as Paul did, he'd average -

28.0 ppg and 9.0 assists.

You could argue that amount of minutes may compromise Curry's health, yet that's basically a picture of what #s he'd put had he played more 4th quarters. I mean we saw what he was capable of in the playoffs, when playing close to 40 minutes - which is considerably better than where Paul was at 23-24 years old.

I agree, he's definitely sold himself short over his career.

I agree with most everything you said, but just like you can't measure Curry's presence on the court opening up everything for his teammates, Paul got into the paint at will in those days. He compromised the defense on nearly every possession because nobody could stay in front of him and he was godly in the pick and roll.

David West is a two-time All-Star because of Chris Paul.

 

[BrothaZay]

Eye test says rose easily...

 

[ManBearPig]

I can't explain what happened in the postseason with Paul. Biggest dud of his career, which was surprising considering how great he was in the '08 playoffs. Regular season is factoring into this though and he was an animal that year.

You know I wish he shot more. I say that in every game thread when he decides to get aggressive and start throwing up shots. He's still efficient and gets any look he wants.

The guy is a surefire Hall of Famer and I think he's sold himself short.

If he shoots more, his game would be more predictable and CP3 isn't that great of a scorer to begin with.

Him trying to job 30 is what all Opposing coaches Would love to see

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

If he shoots more, his game would be more predictable and CP3 isn't that great of a scorer to begin with.

Him trying to job 30 is what all Opposing coaches Would love to see

Shooting more would actually make his game unpredictable, because teams would have to play him for both the shot and pass. Opposing coaches would hate it, if Paul look to score 30 a night. When he's is aggressive throughout the whole game, he's amongst the best scorers in the league.

 

[ManBearPig]

Shooting more would actually make his game unpredictable, because teams would have to play him for both the shot and pass. Opposing coaches would hate it, if Paul look to score 30 a night. When he's is aggressive throughout the whole game, he's amongst the best scorers in the league.

That Series he had vs Grizzlies back in 2013 was him trying trying a scorers.


That idea didn't work because Nobody else was getting shyt. CP3 is no fukking Russell Westbrook in terms of scoring

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

That Series he had vs Grizzlies back in 2013 was him trying trying a scorers.

He actually only shot 15 times a game during that series, that's typically not enough to get a near accurate reading of how much success he has when looking to score/ when to pass. Plus he defeated the Grizzlies in 2012 - in the wins he averaged 17.5 shots per game and in the losses he averaged 12.3 shots per game. I mean it stands to reason, the more your main ball-handlers/best players shoot, the higher possibility you have at winning. It goes with the territory of trying to win the game - you want your best scorers to be as aggressive as possible, within reason.

Look at the Spurs series this past postseason - in the wins he averaged 16.2 shots per game, and in the losses he averaged 13.3 shots per game.

But it goes a lot further than just looking to score, it's about balancing when to shoot/pass, and you can only find this balance by looking to score first.

That idea didn't work because Nobody else was getting shyt. CP3 is no fukking Russell Westbrook in terms of scoring

You can't rely on your role players to carry the team. That's not how it works. Did you not see what happened when the Clippers let a 19-pt lead slip against the Rockets, because CP wasn't being aggressive, and stood back passing the ball, letting others initiate the offense and take shots? If Paul took it upon himself to look to score to seal the game before the Rockets even had a chance to build momentum, that series would've ended 3-2 in favor of the Clippers.

CP is certainly not fukking with Westbrook when it comes to scoring, yet he's still one of the better scorers in the league.

 

[Regular_P]

If he shoots more, his game would be more predictable and CP3 isn't that great of a scorer to begin with.

Him trying to job 30 is what all Opposing coaches Would love to see

Hell no. When Paul looks to score more he's unguardable and his teams have been historically better when he does. He can score with anybody in the league and do it at a very efficient clip too. I wish he would take 18-20 shots a game.