“Rap doesn’t influence anyone to commit crimes”

[old pig]

This is a deflection…

wow.

 

[RennisDeynolds]

A few crash dummies are ready to do whatever to gain their names. The chance to be a rapper and get fame encourages them even more

 

[KamikazePilot]

The coli:

sees a gay on tv - " the agenda is real, theyre making kids gay."


young black rappers doing nothing but dealing/using drugs and murdering other blacks - "no influence whatsoever, shame on you for thinking otherwise."

Both are stupid as fukk instead of addressing the real problems nikkas want to scapegoat rap because they don’t like the music of today

shyt will never change because nobody wants to put in the actual work.

 

[Juliano Soprano]

Did the Godfather or Sopranos encourage people to join the mafia? Did Boy George, Will and Grace or Tyler Perry movies encourage dudes to become fags?

Music and all the arts for that matter are just a reflection of what is going on in society. It doesn't make people do anything that they were not already inclined to do. Blaming rap music is just another way for society to blame the Black man for stuff. They used to do the same thing for Blues, Jazz and Rock and Roll. It was easier to blame the Black artists than to just admit that people are inclined to abuse substances or acknowledge that a lot of women are promiscuous. Then all of a sudden it becomes alright when White people start playing that music.

I’ll say it again, influenced them to do it? Nah, maybe for the weak minded, but it’s great theme music for it,. I’m not pointing fingers at rap music like I’m higher than thou either, all I listen to is rap music and r&b. We gotta admit this shyt absolute romanticizes it, some of these rappers literally do shyt like join gangs to be more authentic, that’s facts. How many nikkas , whether they blew up or not you think did some foul shyt to be looked at as more authentic in this rap shyt? That whole Florida beef with Foolio and them, is that not heavily fueled by what they saying on tracks?

Somethin else to note, the art being a reflection of the reality is facts for the good artists, not so much for the ones just following a blueprint to get in the game, see tekashi and alot of the sound cloud rappers we’ve seen for a cool decade now.

 

[Dance_Like_A_Fiend]

I think it influences some crime, but not all of it.

That said, a lot of rappers are basically glorified criminals. Most of them shouldn't be idolized or respected and none of them need to be put in the media.

 

[Complexion]

Of course it does but that doesn't mean to say the drive wasn't already within.

The music business is based on low vibrational state management just like the news wing of the firm generates fear and anxiety.

You mean to tell me everyone who was anti weed in 89 and suddenly started blazing in 93 wasn't influenced by The Chronic or these modern moronic mumblers and stumblers didn't take their cues from those who they thought were cool so they popped whatever it is the kids do to be just like them?

C'mon man, thats just being willfully ignorant. Go and listen to Stic Mans Workout album back to back for a few days and tell me what happens to your mood and motivation when it comes to training and staying in shape:











Then extrapolate and imagine most of the genre was talking about these topics instead of killing, shooting, getting high and thirsting for funds and it will become self evident.

 

[old pig]

instead of addressing the real problems nikkas want to scapegoat rap because they don’t like the music of today

also bcuz it’s easier to blame the music…the irony is someone said bringing up institutional racism is a deflection lol…no fixating on rap is the deflection…the government has literally flooded certain neighborhoods with more drugs than any rapper has ever spoken about…the impacts of which are still felt today…crates of guns are still being “randomly” dropped off in certain neighborhoods…how do you ignore something like that? the problem is there is no easy fix for that to the point of it being depressing at times…but it’s easier to paint rap as a major culprit and pretend something can be done about it…as someone said tho…if you completely eradicate hip hop, many of our problems will still remain bcuz they were always there well before hip hop became an influence in the culture

 

[Bondye Vodou]

LGBT imagery on TV and lyrics in music won't influence kids to be gay

 

[Will Ross]

also bcuz it’s easier to blame the music…the irony is someone said bringing up institutional racism is a deflection lol…no fixating on rap is the deflection…the government has literally flooded certain neighborhoods with more drugs than any rapper has ever spoken about…the impacts of which are still felt today…crates of guns are still being “randomly” dropped off in certain neighborhoods…how do you ignore something like that? the problem is there is no easy fix for that to the point of it being depressing at times…but it’s easier to paint rap as a major culprit and pretend something can be done about it…as someone said tho…if you completely eradicate hip hop, many of our problems will still remain bcuz they were always there well before hip hop became an influence in the culture

You don’t get that rap promotes the culture that made kids want to sell those drugs and use those guns.

 

[WhenWeWereKings]

The problem with this convo is it lacks nuance. Ppl draw a line in the sand and go gung ho defending it.

We can acknowledge institutional racism and poor social and economic conditions as primary causes. Anyone with an ounce of sense should.

However that does not mean we should gloss over or ignore that there are kids who are emulating the worse aspects of rap culture either.

Kids emulate slang, fashion and other popular cultural portions of hip hop but they will draw the line of the obvious crime/gang influenced drill, trap and gangster rap?

 

[old pig]

You don’t get that rap promotes the culture that made kids want to sell those drugs and use those guns.

selling drugs and using guns existed well before rap became a huge part of american culture…y’all are forcing an extreme narrative on ppl by saying they believe rap has zero influence when folks are saying some of y’all are overstating the influence it has…that hitmaka clip that some of y’all latched onto (not you per se) is not the norm where kids of millionaires are flocking to the streets to sell crack bcuz of DMX…unfortunately selling drugs and gun violence have been a path some poor black ppl have always been faced with bcuz of a lack of options due to shytty upbringing and education…and will continue to be so…how much will targeting rap curtail that??

 

[Damnshow]

Yes it influences.

Every hood has hard working people doing regular jobs dreaming of leaving the hood or dreaming of improving the hood. Gangsta rappers sell the outlaw ideology poison to the youth. They embrace the worst part of the hood. This isn't the video games where everybody knows its a fake world, music is a real world people telling you it's cool to be ignorant + music is way more accessible and music frequency has an effect on humans health.

Just because these problems existed way before hip hop, that does not give an excuse. Watch how 80s rap had a lot of positive thinking and then prison culture got the heavy influence in mainstream rap from mid 90s till nowadays.

 

[prime]

My experience is different. Most of the drug dealers I knew as kids were not piss poor. They were not hustling to keep the lights on. They were hustling to stunt. In the early 2000s that street life was glorified

Both of y’all is right I’m from the suburbs of Chicago so we got super hood suburbs and nice middle class to upper middle class black areas us in the hood wanted to stunt,help our parents out or wanted to sell drugs because our older cousins did and we seen them get the women and niqqas in upper middle class areas sold drugs to stunt even tho they had parents they had nice careers and grew up in nice areas they still wanted to sell drugs niqqas would be in areas like Olympia Fields,Matteson,homewood and flossmoor wanted to sell drugs and gang bang the shyt would have me like

 

[Tony D'Amato]

Jay z made more crack dealers than billionaires. Thats a fact

 

[RareHunter]

Man some of yall are just sad and pitiful from a mental standpoint. What you listen to, watch, entertain will affect you. Perhaps YOU may not murder, but you’re probably angry, willing to sleep with another mans wife cuz they rap about it so much, overly promiscuous, shun marriage, shun pureness, ect..

Yall will do anything to defend this evil, backwards, idustry controlled genre of music. Rap in and of itself may not be bad as anyone can rap about anything, but modern rap/hiphop is disgusting poison. Useless garbage. Creating a bunch of infantile brained men and loud harlots every year.