“Rap doesn’t influence anyone to commit crimes”

Do you believe rap influences the youth to commit crimes?

  • Yes

    Votes: 143 74.9%
  • No

    Votes: 48 25.1%

  • Total voters
    191

old pig

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If a rich kid is Influenced by rap why would the poor kid in the hood not be the same? The only difference is you are giving them a pass for their actions because they are poor

I didn’t give anyone a “pass” that’s just a narrative you want to latch onto instead of paying attention to what I’m saying and that’s why these type of threads devolve into shyt
 

Wildin

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People like to make these grandiose statements about influence.

And yes there's going to typically be something in everyone's life that sparks an thought or an idea.

I grew up watching Michael Jordan, Grant Hill, shaq (magic) playing NBA jam...hell I played basketball for 16 years. I never ever ever wanted to play in the NBA. Basketball was fun, but I never wanted to be "like Mike."

I grew up playing Mario, mortal combat and street fighter, never kicked or stomped any turtles, ate magic mushrooms, ripped someone's heart out, or any of that shyt.

Used to play mad Quake, quake 2, unreal tournament, goldeneye....never wanted to shoot people randomly or any of that.

Grew up on all the rap. My brother still has his CD collection, and boxes of cassettes. He graduated in 90. I was a jit, riding around in his whip, flipping through all the album artwork listening to everything, big, pac, nas, master p and no limit, cashmoney....never ever wanted to sell drugs or even be a rapper.

I make beats as a hobby but what kids don't find some sort of musical endeavor, they used to teach us instruments in school (still do).

Millions of Americans are sheltered from bullshyt and raised in a church. We don't have millions of pastors, church leaders and wannabes.

At some point in our lives, and nobody know when, could be when we are 3, 7, 9, 13, 18. Something resonates with us and some of us say "this is what I'd like to do".

For some people that doesn't happen. I know 40 year olds still waiting for something to pop off. I know 40 year olds who served in the military, went to college got a degree, good job, spouse, kids, and are still waiting for that something to pop off.

For other circumstances break them. Cats start doing or dealing drugs and get caught up in the system and get fukked.

One of my close friends was like that. Was mid 20's used to drink, smoke, pop pills, party 5-6 nights a week. Got a job ironically at a residential youth treatment center. Don't know what clicked or why, but within months dude stopped drinking, smoking using drugs. Dude runs shyt now. shyt just sync'd up for him. He doesn't tell war stories (about using and abusing) but if he's asked whether he's ever used, he's honest about it.

I know people in their 50's and 60's that just now or recently got shyt sync'd and looping. Some people would that's too late. And depending on who those people are in some instances they may be right (case in point one of their 30 year old children).

Yeah some of music is bad. No denying that. Maybe it's easier to either do bad stuff or be lazy than it is to be productive or chase goals. I tell people all the time a blind man has climbed the Himalayas, a dude with no legs has climbed MT Kilimanjaro---- "What did you do today?".

No one Ive ever mentioned that to has ever done something extravagant like that but it's possible they made positive steps, others have continued to do nothing and get worse.

Rap at this point is a common denominator but it's also just a scapegoat. Blaming rap in 2022 is exactly the same as blaming white racism and/or mass shootings as " mental health". Yes someone during a drive by shooting may have been playing rap music, yes someone might see so and so with the draco and the glock and go :krs:, yes someone might get killed or jumped at a rap concert, yes some artist may condone the negative behaviors often attributed to rap, yes someone who is racist may also have a mental health illness, could be depression, anxiety, autism, ADHD, add, bipolar, schizo effective disorder, but having any of those disorders doesn't make you racist. Having a glock and a draco doesn't make you a thug or a gangmember. Playing a fukking song doesn't mean you're a criminal.
 

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Get over yourself man.

People called Elvis the devils music.

How explicit is rap music compared to other genus. Yes their are satanic rock groups but nothing that is consumed at the rate and exposure as modern rap.

Even so I don’t blame the black man I blame the white executives who push this type of explicit music.

Remember when chamilniare came out with riden dirty, then wanted to create a non explicit album with a positive message and got no push from his label and faded out of existence.

It’s not the rappers fault, labels want to push explicit content, cause it sells. Yeah most people who listen to it do it for entertainment but there’s a small few who are influenced by it specifically young kids.

But hers the twist I don’t think it influences black kids I believe it influences white suburban kids who want to fit in more then anything.

Does rap influence people yeah, to party, relax, dance, have a good time, etc. and when you hear someone cursing, yelling and talking about killing other men over petty things, over and over again your mentality will change.
It’s not because it sells merely, because they can control whats popular. If they wanted virginity to be popular, they could. They do it, strictly to destroy The Most High’s chosen people made in his image (Negroes). It’s also why they forced haircuts in the workplace, shaving of beards, black women having to perm or wear wigs, ect….

The fake chosen do anything to keep the real chosen in the dark, living in sin, constantly in prison, and prematurely dying. Rap also doesn’t affect other groups for the fact that they are not chosen, so they aren’t affected, and they don’t identify with it, it’s merely entertainment to them.
 

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Get over your goofy self because Elvis was shunned for playing Black people music you dummy. That is why he was shunned. He was playing Black people music which was called the Devil's music.

If Mick Jaeger and other rock and country musicians are not responsible for White people opiod drug addictions then why are rappers the only people being blamed for societal ills.

This is just more ways to blame Black people for shyt.

I never heard anyone in real life blame rappers for the white opioid crisis.

But guess what when these kids are high they rather listen to future and Gucci mane then Elvis or the Beatles and record labels know this so they push the rappers to talk that talk.

But this is just a one side or rap. Plenty of other rappers who don’t talk that talk.
 

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Just because it doesn’t effect you doesn’t mean it doesn’t other

Someone can eat fried food every day and drink alcohol every day and die of old age at 100. Doesn’t mean that it doesn’t effect someone else if they eat and drink like thst


Rap music is demonic

That is the case for everything though. Someone can watch a Batman movie, get influenced by the Joker and decide to shoot up a theater.

You don't make policies based on outlier cases. Rap music isn't propelling the average to go out and kill others aimlessly or sell drugs.
 

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I never heard anyone in real life blame rappers for the white opioid crisis.

But guess what when these kids are high they rather listen to future and Gucci mane then Elvis or the Beatles and record labels know this so they push the rappers to talk that talk.

But this is just a one side or rap. Plenty of other rappers who don’t talk that talk.


small note about people framing the opioid crisis as a white people problem.
Non-Hispanic Black individuals in four U.S. states experienced a 38% increase in the rate of opioid overdose deaths from 2018 to 2019, while the rates for other race and ethnicity groups held steady or decreased, according to a new study by the National Institutes of Health published in the American Journal of Public Health. These alarming data are in line with other research documenting a widening of disparities in overdose deaths in Black communities in recent years, largely driven by heroin and illicit fentanyl. The research emphasizes the need for equitable, data-driven, community-based interventions that address these disparities.

 

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Crime was worse before rap

lol…some cats are already walking back their statements…I seen one poster in here “concede” rap may not necessarily influence one to commit murder but it can make one angry :skip:

cats just want to vent about rap…I wouldn’t be surprised if a decent number of them are not working with these kids, going into these neighborhoods and seeing the underlying factors that create these fukked up circumstances that rap reflects…and that doesn’t excuse anyone as some LOVE to insist but it does explain why it’s happening…there are far more circumstances that contribute to crime statistically than listening to rap music…but cats are already backing off that shyt lol
 
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I never heard anyone in real life blame rappers for the white opioid crisis.

But guess what when these kids are high they rather listen to future and Gucci mane then Elvis or the Beatles and record labels know this so they push the rappers to talk that talk.

But this is just a one side or rap. Plenty of other rappers who don’t talk that talk.
Why isn't Mick Jaeger, Eric Clapton and other Rock and Roll bands blamed for the opioid, cocaine and other drug crisis in the White community?

Why isn't Charlie Daniel and Waylon Jennings blamed for alcoholism, and drunk driving in the White community?

Yet rappers are blamed for ills in the Black community?
 
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