“Rap doesn’t influence anyone to commit crimes”

[Matt504]

This is one of the dumbest topics ever. If rap makes folks do dirt explain dirt pre rap. There are other factors period.

You also have to explain why middle class(and countless folks who make less than them) folks listen to it and just go to work and go home.

shyt reeks of bigotry yet clowns repeat it over and over again to sound smart.

No one here is making the claim that crime didn't exist pre-rap, no one is claiming that rap is a primary driver of crime.

The only bigotry here is white people paying Black people to make anti-Black music, those same Black rappers can't even mention the Jewish community, even in praise without being censored but all of their anti-Black content is free to fly.

No to anti-semitism but yes to anti-Blackness.

 

[Double Burger With Cheese]

This is one of the dumbest topics ever. If rap makes folks do dirt explain dirt pre rap. There are other factors period.

You also have to explain why middle class(and countless folks who make less than them) folks listen to it and just go to work and go home.

shyt reeks of bigotry yet clowns repeat it over and over again to sound smart.

Over and over again. Over and over again. Over and over again. (Most) These nikkas don’t care about the community. They care about some type of identity they got on the internet that’s tied to parroting the same silly points inside an echo chamber of like minded goofies.

 

[old pig]

Over and over again. Over and over again. Over and over again. (Most) These nikkas don’t care about the community. They care about some type of identity they got on the internet that’s tied to parroting the same silly points inside an echo chamber of like minded goofies.

this is true to an extent…many really believe it tho smh

 

[Tair]

If you want to lower crime rates push for policies to decrease poverty rates and increase education rates. Blaming rap music is nonsense and is a useless conversation to the problem of crime in the Black community.

 

[Double Burger With Cheese]

this is true to an extent…many really believe it tho smh

Breh I don’t even have an issue with the discussion. I don’t even fully disagree with these dudes. But it’s been some type of obsession for people to latch on to rap music with such veracity, as if it’s the root cause of every black issue. And that couldn’t be further from the truth. But when you tell these dudes this, they will try and shame you into not denouncing all rap music….on a hip hop site lol. And with their gay leader being a Young Thug stan. Like you can’t make this shut up. Then they always got some goofy shyt to say like, well I didn’t say it was the only cause of issues…But they act like it. Making thread after thread. Cherry picking content to fit their narrative. Being obtuse and silly. Trying to use shaming tactics. And add to the fact, these nikkas never even been in no streets lol. They street perspective come from books and that the internet lol. It’s a joke. And I’m here to let it be known

 

[old pig]

Breh I don’t even have an issue with the discussion. I don’t even fully disagree with these dudes. But it’s been some type of obsession for people to latch on to rap music with such veracity, as if it’s the root cause of every black issue. And that couldn’t be further from the truth. But when you tell these dudes this, they will try and shame you into not denouncing all rap music….on a hip hop site lol. And with their gay leader being a Young Thug stan. Like you can’t make this shut up. Then they always got some goofy shyt to say like, well I didn’t say it was the only cause of issues…But they act like it. Making thread after thread. Cherry picking content to fit their narrative. Being obtuse and silly. Trying to use shaming tactics. And add to the fact, these nikkas never even been in no streets lol. They street perspective come from books and that the internet lol. It’s a joke. And I’m here to let it be known

I feel you 1000%

I typically don’t engage in these threads cuz at the end of the day nothing is gonna get done about it in these threads or by a decent amount of the posters on either side

 

[CrushedGroove]

Growing up, people did things they felt they had to. I still feel like this is the same, but I do feel like rap make people feel like the shyt is ok.

Being the worst of ourselves is being marketed to us and hurting each other is being glamourized.

It is simultaneously art imitating life and life imitating art.

 

[FukkaPaidEmail]

If you think rap is the primary driver for crime you’re a moron

if you think rap cant influence ppl to engage in destructive behavior you’re a moron .

 

[5thbornpowerseed]

How come it never applies to any musicians other than Black musicians. When Black people played Blues they were accused of negatively influencing society. When White people stole that music and called it Country or Folk music then all of a sudden it was fine.

When Black people invented Rock and Roll it was called the devil's music. When lame ass White people stole it then all of a sudden the music was fine. Same thing with Jazz.

This is nothing more but another way to blame the Black man.

You're asking me, a black man, to answer for the narratives created by white folks?

Im not even in the business of regurgitating those bullshyt ideas...

Race has nothing to with what we're talking about....

We're discussing the influential nature of music in general...

I really have to question your powers of observation if you are claiming that the influence of music is some racial conspiracy...

 

[Samori Toure]

You're asking me, a black man, to answer for the narratives created by white folks?

Im not even in the business of regurgitating those bullshyt ideas...

Race has nothing to with what we're talking about....

We're discussing the influential nature of music in general...

I really have to question your powers of observation if you are claiming that the influence of music is some racial conspiracy...

I am questioning your powers of observation if you have not noticed that they have said the exact same thing about Black people and Blues; Black people and Rock and Roll and Black people and Jazz.

At some point you will have to take your head out of the sand and face reality. Everything associated with Black people is viewed negatively until White people steal it.

 

[Peruvian Connect]

Nobody is selling drugs because their favorite rapper does it. They do it because they're environment doesn't offer much else.

1000% False

 

[bzb]

keep it 100. the way we dress our lingo and even our behavior is influenced by our music. thats why i pump dmx (rip) during workouts. play rnb or mood music when relaxing or with the lady.

crime tho? music can and does influence some but not by itself. my biggest gripe is the lack of diversity.

 

[Will Ross]

A poor kid in the hood sees it all day and might know of it first hand and realizes gangster rap is just glamorized.

The rich kid thinks it’s all glamours and doesn’t realize people get killed, go to jail. The women you attract are most likely on drugs (crack heads) and it’s constantly watching behind your back for someone trying to rob you.

If a middle class or rich black kid is influenced to be in the streets because of rap you don’t see that as destructive?

 

[I'm Blackman]

My experience is different. Most of the drug dealers I knew as kids were not piss poor. They were not hustling to keep the lights on. They were hustling to stunt. In the early 2000s that street life was glorified

This, All of the drug dealers I knew fit this description. They were middle class kids who wanted more material things and saw an easy route to it. Even Biggie's mother said the shyt he was saying on Juicy was ducktales.

This too! One of best friends doing time in the feds now, I remember the day he decided to sell dope-no bullshyt. We was like 13 or 14 and we had just got I'm bout it the movie on VHS (yeah I'm old lol). I was just enjoying the movie caused I like it. But I remember him commenting on the scene where an undercover tries to buy from P crew, he said "See he smart, you dont sell to people you dont know." He would make little comments like that during the movie. Now we lived in a normal lower middle class area...it wasnt filled with violence and drugs. N

Now he went to the feds for some tax shyt and didnt start selling dope until he was like 16...but he told me out of his own mouth that Bout It the movie sparked the idea.

Personally, I grew up watching a lot of karate movies and shyt....it made me want to take karate classes and I did. I saw Searching for Bobby Fisher as a kid and told my mom to get me a chess set and some chess books. So all forms of media influence people. Again this shyt (I learned later in college) is marketing 101.

 

[GunRanger]

If you want to lower crime rates push for policies to decrease poverty rates and increase education rates. Blaming rap music is nonsense and is a useless conversation to the problem of crime in the Black community.

Crime as a whole went down yet young black males still make up a disproportionate amount of homicides.

It starts at home. Poverty isnt an excuse to be violent. Theres far more poor who dont do crime than do. It's not just music either, it's a culture, and no policy is going to fix a broken culture.