Rappers need to stop putting out mixtapes and focus more on albums

[Ineedmoney504]

But neither Drake or Frank have released a mixtape since. I understand underground artists doing it, but established artists should steer clear imo.

I mean who is these established dudes who putting out tapes tho, nobody thats really poppin

Kendrick
Jay
Nas
Ye
Drake
Cole
Frank
Weeknd

nikkaz who really poppin aint dropping mixtapes tho, so I dont know why this thread is made, and I dont even count freestyle mixtapes as nothin(shyts or trash wit no replay value)

I mean mid tier nikkaz need mixtapes tho
Wale
Jeezy
Ross
Meek
Ti


nikkaz at that level need to drop shyt consistently(not overduing it tho)

Jeezy last mixtape - last December
Ross last mixtape- last year
Ti - group tape
Wale - last december

I dont see nobody over dueing besides nikkaz who aint poppin and tryna come up

 

[dubsmith_nz]

I dont even think those cats needs mixtapes though. Tip, Wale, Jeezy, Ross and Meek should just focus on touring and albums, itd be alot more effective imo.

 

[UpAndComing]

I mean who is these established dudes who putting out tapes tho, nobody thats really poppin

Kendrick
Jay
Nas
Ye
Drake
Cole
Frank
Weeknd

nikkaz who really poppin aint dropping mixtapes tho, so I dont know why this thread is made, and I dont even count freestyle mixtapes as nothin(shyts or trash wit no replay value)

I mean mid tier nikkaz need mixtapes tho
Wale
Jeezy
Ross
Meek
Ti


nikkaz at that level need to drop shyt consistently(not overduing it tho)

Jeezy last mixtape - last December
Ross last mixtape- last year
Ti - group tape
Wale - last december

I dont see nobody over dueing besides nikkaz who aint poppin and tryna come up

But that's the whole point. nikkas shouldn't be dropping mixtapes once a year. It should be a once in a while thing. Any focus on a mixtape, is bring focus off of your album. Which is why rappers got albums sounding like they on auto-pilot

Mixtapes should just be for throwaway songs or like you said random freestyles. If any song on your mixtape is better than any song on your album, its a loss in my opinion

 

[Big Boss]

Yes established rappers shouldn't do mixtapes

 

[Ineedmoney504]

But that's the whole point. nikkas shouldn't be dropping mixtapes once a year. It should be a once in a while thing. Any focus on a mixtape, is bring focus off of your album. Which is why rappers got albums sounding like they on auto-pilot

Mixtapes should just be for throwaway songs or like you said random freestyles. If any song on your mixtape is better than any song on your album, its a loss in my opinion

Alot of time great mixtape songs would never be cleared to be on album tho, due to samples or whatever reason, think of a song like cartoons and cereal wit kdot and gunplay, song couldnt get cleared, its imo better than 99% of the songs on gkmc

Cole released 2 eps before his album, some songs were better than the entire album, but alot of that stuff cant be cleared

Think of a big krit if he only could release albums, shyts would be trash and so many classics songs would never be heard

Mixtapes/eps are needed, its pure and exactly what the artist wants to be released, and now adays mixtapes are not looked at as any different than albums, people still bumping ross rich forever to this day

People will remember great music at the end of the day, whether it mixtapes/albums/ep/ random song

 

[duncanthetall]

Knew nikkas were gonna mention KRITTA



I got faith in the boy tho. Bout to drop a classic I'm sure of it

 

[↓R↑LYB]

I don't like this "excuse", you can't blame everything on the label. There's plenty of ways to get yourself out there without signing to a label or have them puppet string you. Labels only want artists to sign if they are going to be worth their investment.

It's true though. Look at what happened with Nas and the Untitled album. The album was supposed to be way more revolutionary (like the mixtape was) but the execs made him change a lot of shyt. Plus in the case of Big KRIT he had a lot of problems with getting samples cleared. When you put out a mixtape, you don't have to worry about that shyt.

I do agree that mixtapes need to slow down though, I respect dudes like Nas and Jay who rarely do them.

 

[UpAndComing]

In this ADD world, I doubt it. People are very forgetful. And there too much music being released from mainstream to underground to your local local rappers. People get lost in the shuffle

Yeah I agree. But I think of it this way. Say you meet a girl whos a 8 or 9 (In comparison to a talented rapper). But she keep texting you every 5 min, begging for your attention, callin you ever hour leaving voicemails complaining why you aint pick up
Sooner or later you gonna be like bytch
And delete her number

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

Rappers control the content of their mixtapes... Corporate record labels control the content of their albums..

Why would you chose what the suits want you to hear as a better option?

this... labels have the option to turn down anything they want... you can turn in that mixtape if you want.. don't mean they want to hear that shyt nor will think it'll sell anything.. then it's back to the drawing board for you

that and yea, you're forgotten in 6 months with the internet... everything y'all saying SOUNDS good... but you drop off earth for a year and try to come back, 9/10, people will not care and the hot artist of the month is already in your lane.

we in the era when kanye was dropping new music every week with a list stars and by the next month, nobody even remembered the songs nor cared to hear them anymore

 

[Poitier]

There are dudes who are touring off of one hot mixtape they had years ago and making solid money.

 

[coose]

This year no one is currently over doing it but between say 2008 and 2012 we were over saturated with LilWayne/Young Money/MMG/DJ Khalid. Before that 50 Cent atleast on a national level. I guess you can argue 2 chains over saturated himself over the last year but through features not mixtapes. Even though no one is currently doing it I think some are still suffering from doing it previously.

 

[UpAndComing]

Nipsey Hussle is a another victim

 

[bl2k8]

It's wayyy to hard and expensive for some rappers to clear all them samples for the album

 

[unstoppable589]

It's wayyy to hard and expensive for some rappers to clear all them samples for the album

exactly why i dont have a problem with game putting out so many mixtapes. he keeps the great material for the album as long as it gets cleared. whatever doesnt get cleared we usually get in the form of a mixtape either before or after the album comes out. thats why his mixtapes tend to have a lot of soulful stuff. win win in my opinion

 

[Wild self]

Which material makes you more memorable legacy-wise 20 years down the line?
nikkas could have the Thriller album on their mixtape, and it'll still be forgotten

I said that an hour ago. Illmatic and Paid in Full could been mixtapes and no one would pay attention. The likes of Cole, K Dot, Drake and even Wale played their cards right about mixtapes: drop one EXTREMELY great mixtape, drop a great album, and tour off of that for years to come. Then Drop albums sparingly so that your hardcore fanbase will BUY the album since they miss them so much.

If you do the Gucci Mane/ Yo Gotti way, you bound to flop with 20k first week sales. Oversaturating yourself to "feed the streets" will have your core fanbase not appreciate you, restricts you from touring overseas-where the real $$$ is, and have you pass on in a few years. Lil Wayne was one in a billion cases where oversaturation equals commercial success. Too many people copied Wayne's blueprint and are suffering outside of the underground circuit.

Your legacy is on the line when you drop ALBUMS. Be a Ice Cube, Nas, Jigga, Scarface. Don't be a LOX where you have a million classic tracks on mixtapes and classic freestyles, but have lukeworm albums, which also harmed their legacy by not being mentioned among the legends.