Rate this anime day 5: One Piece

[el_oh_el]

Yeah right now super is garbage story wise, is one piece story really that good? All I remember is that he wants to be a pirate king.

That’s another reason why I think DBZ did so well in the us, it’s focused on power ups and fighting, it’s cool, something people who don’t watch anime can relate to.

I do wonder what would make DBZ’s story better to the masses because I just love it the way it is.

I’m wondering what kind of story and drama would they want from that show to make the story better and would that even work with an anime like Z?

For me, they could easily involve the use of some type of actual fukking tactics during the battle instead of powerups and asspulls. I'd like to see a weaker person defeat a stronger opponent with actual strategy. The TOP arc had some inklings of this, but usually the only strategy is the occasional teamup/fusion. He left a lot of potential on the table, and I hope Toyotaro takes it up a notch

 

[xXMASHERXx]

Nothing in the OP says to consider the manga when voting. If it did then I would score One Piece and many other series differently. But as it stands, the anime is not good.

 

[The_Sheff]

Damn what’s so good about the manga?

Do you like it better than DBZ?

I can’t get into anime’s like that, it came out once I got older and didn’t want to watch anime anymore, and then it’s like 1000 episodes so it’s like once you hear it’s good, there’s too many episodes to catch up with.

One Piece is about cool shyt happening, relationships, mysteries, and adventure. The fights that matter really only take place at the end of the arc. Unlike DBZ and Naruto the fights are the minority of the manga. And when I say relationships I don't mean characters dating as there is almost none of that, I mean how specific characters interact with one another. For instance Luffy is the main character and a pirate but his grandfather is one of the strongest marines and is sometimes tasked with trying to catch Luffy. So it's interesting to see how that dynamic plays out. Also the powers are pretty interesting and unique. There was a character who had the power to turn his body into mochi (rice cakes) which sounds super wack but he was straight raw with how he used that power (watch anime episode 870).

One Piece manga gets good around chapter 69.

 

[Cadillac]

One Piece is about cool shyt happening, relationships, mysteries, and adventure. The fights that matter really only take place at the end of the arc. Unlike DBZ and Naruto the fights are the minority of the manga. And when I say relationships I don't mean characters dating as there is almost none of that, I mean how specific characters interact with one another. For instance Luffy is the main character and a pirate but his grandfather is one of the strongest marines and is sometimes tasked with trying to catch Luffy. So it's interesting to see how that dynamic plays out. Also the powers are pretty interesting and unique. There was a character who had the power to turn his body into mochi (rice cakes) which sounds super wack but he was straight raw with how he used that power (watch anime episode 870).

One Piece manga gets good around chapter 69.

this isnt really true
OP is as much about fighting as it is about adventure, mysteries etc

infact outside of adventure, . Its more about fighting than relationships and arguably even mysteries. Plus fights make up alot of the "cool shyt happening"

The difference between OP and DB is simply one series encompasses fighting and alot more with it to give a reader(One piece) and the other is solely about fighting(Dragonball)

which is a given to happen, as DB is a martial art/Wuxia series. So it being focusing on fighting is expected. I mean the series is about a group of Martial artist so what you expect.

 

[The_Sheff]

this isnt really true
OP is as much about fighting as it is about adventure, mysteries etc

infact outside of adventure, . Its more about fighting than relationships and arguably even mysteries. Plus fights make up alot of the "cool shyt happening"

The difference between OP and DB is simply one series encompasses fighting and alot more with it to give a reader(One piece) and the other is solely about fighting(Dragonball)

which is a given to happen, as DB is a martial art/Wuxia series. So it being focusing on fighting is expected. I mean the series is about a group of Martial artist so what you expect.

There has been a lot of things happening in the Wano arc so far. Major shyt and very little of it has been fights that actually matter. It's been minor skirmishes, world building, and training. DBZ would not have this much happen and there not be huge fights. That's what I'm saying. Every arc in DBZ tries to present itself as the end of the world, this is the only thing that matters, there has been one fight like that in One Piece and we are working toward the second. Think about this, Zoro has received a new sword for the first time in like 10 years. In something like Bleach Ichigo got a new power every arc.

 

[Cadillac]

There has been a lot of things happening in the Wano arc so far. Major shyt and very little of it has been fights that actually matter. It's been minor skirmishes, world building, and training. DBZ would not have this much happen and there not be huge fights. That's what I'm saying. Every arc in DBZ tries to present itself as the end of the world, this is the only thing that matters, there has been one fight like that in One Piece and we are working toward the second. Think about this, Zoro has received a new sword for the first time in like 10 years. In something like Bleach Ichigo got a new power every arc.

this doesnt make sense, a series doesnt have to be purely about fighting and 1:1 like DBZ. To be a fighting series, just because DBZ does that, doesnt mean that makes you or breaks you to be a fighting series if you dont copy it.
You brought up Naruto as about "fights" but it wasnt anything close to like DB until the end.

@underline: fights are still a fight.
By your logic then your already wrong about DB, because DB did the same thing with Namek/Frieza arc. For the first half of it(pre Ginyu force). The only real "fight"(going by your logic of what it is) was Vegeta vs Zarbon. All the others were just small skirmishes with two of them of Vegeta offing characters like its nothing.
so in first half of Namek, we had as many fights as the ACT 1 and 2 of Wano, infact wano has had more fights than Namek.


@bolded ok this is not even a fair comparison, Zoro only has now gotten a sword in this arc, because he came off of training from Mihawk. Plus he has never faced someone close to his level.
In bleach, ichigo doesnt always have a new power up. Fullbring he did not get one, at the end he just got his powers back and fullbring doesnt count as they were gone from him once ginjo took it.
Bleach also only has 5 arcs compared to One piece which has 30 + arcs. So the way they are written and constructed is not the same on top of that, they have two different roles(Ichigo being the protagonist). So this comparison does not hold weight.

Plus in OP, every arc a SH gets a powerup so. So the whole"in bleach they..." is easily negated given that OP does the same thing but applies it to the whole crew.
Zoro himself went from Alabasta to TB gaining several powerups consecutively: Breathe of all things, then flying slash, Asura, and Shusui
with them being back to back to back(in terms of sagas)

 

[5n0man]

The character design in one piece is trash imo.

I cant take that show seriously because all the characters look like some silly ass looney tunes shyt. It's hard to consider the stakes when the main character is running around with a straw hat and flip flops with his toes out.

 

[The_Sheff]

fights are still a fight.

By your logic then your already wrong about DB, because DB did the same thing with Namek/Frieza arc. For the first half of it(pre Ginyu force). The only real "fight"(going by your logic of what it is) was Vegeta vs Zarbon. All the others were just small skirmishes with two of them of Vegeta offing characters like its nothing.

@bolded ok this is not even a fair comparison, Zoro only has now gotten a sword in this arc, because he came off of training from Mihawk. Plus he has never faced someone close to his level.
In bleach, ichigo doesnt always have a new power up. Fullbring he did not get one, at the end he just got his powers back and fullbring doesnt count as they were gone from him once ginjo took it.

Bleach also only has 5 arcs compared to One piece which has 30 + arcs. So the way they are written and constructed is not the same. So your comparison is does not hold espescially as they have two different roles(Ichigo being the protagonist)

Plus in OP, every arc a SH gets a powerup so. So the whole"in bleach they..." is dumb given that OP does the same thing but applies it to the whole crew.

Look at the Namek arc, they fought the Ginyu force as a non-end boss fight. That was made out to be a huge deal and those characters kept appearing. Look at what has happened in Wano, nobody considers the Holdem fight as mattering at all. The fight vs the yokozuna? That shyt doesn't matter, Zoro fought a transforming fox that means nothing. Even named characters like Page One get 1 page fights. Up to this point the only purpose they serve is to show you their devil fruit. Hell the fights people are interested in between high tiers aren't even happening on panel now.

Look at the material that is causing one piece to trend on Twitter. Bounties, disbandment of the shichibukai, zoro getting a sword, Alabasta mystery, Rox crew, Sword, etc... Not the drawing of an actual fight. The hypest One Piece chapters aren't the fights themselves but everything that happens after them and the ramifications. Quick example, when awakening was introduced during the Doflamingo fight forums had more activity talking about what awakening would look like for other powers instead of discussing the current fight. Characters that had no chance of reappearing were being discussed just as much as the current fight. shyt was hilarious. People are discussing the politics of Aokiji supposedly leaving the marines and being a Blackbeard ally since the Sword reveal and not him actually fighting someone.

You get none of that secondary or tertiary discussion with DBZ. It's basically who stronger than who. Who can blow up the most planets simultaneously. The end.

 

[zerorequiem]

You have to watch and read the whole of One Piece to appreciate it. This is coming from someone who REFUSED to watch One Piece cause I hated the art design at first. Now it's my number 1 based off of backstories alone. Oda is a master of tying things together as well. The manga has really picked up since Wano. The anime art is crazy in Wano as well. This and Demon Slayer are at the top for me at the moment.

 

[Balla]

There has been a lot of things happening in the Wano arc so far. Major shyt and very little of it has been fights that actually matter. It's been minor skirmishes, world building, and training. DBZ would not have this much happen and there not be huge fights. That's what I'm saying. Every arc in DBZ tries to present itself as the end of the world, this is the only thing that matters, there has been one fight like that in One Piece and we are working toward the second. Think about this, Zoro has received a new sword for the first time in like 10 years. In something like Bleach Ichigo got a new power every arc.

I see it’s just depends on the person, I care about story, but I love fighting, just talking is boring to me and I can see why op is freakin 1000+ episodes, to slow for me.

Does that show really give you feels? Like when I was watching dbz as a kid, when Goku turned super saiyan, I was so excited, shyt I just watched that the other day.

I don’t think op or any other anime would get me hyped like that.

I mean a story with little fights and more talking could be cool if you are really interested in the show itself, but dbz keeps you hype.

Many people were complaining on how long each fight in dbz was, imagine if there were a little bit of fights in dbz? People would think it was trash.

Dbz knows how to get people’s attention.

 

[Balla]

The character design in one piece is trash imo.

I cant take that show seriously because all the characters look like some silly ass looney tunes shyt. It's hard to consider the stakes when the main character is running around with a straw hat and flip flops with his toes out.

I can’t son, you sound like me lmao

Ask a child who they wanna be for Halloween, Goku or luffy? Who the fukk you think?

 

[Days of Future Piff]

I see it’s just depends on the person, I care about story, but I love fighting, just talking is boring to me and I can see why op is freakin 1000+ episodes, to slow for me.

Does that show really give you feels? Like when I was watching dbz as a kid, when Goku turned super saiyan, I was so excited, shyt I just watched that the other day.

I don’t think op or any other anime would get me hyped like that.

I mean a story with little fights and more talking could be cool if you are really interested in the show itself, but dbz keeps you hype.

Many people were complaining on how long each fight in dbz was, imagine if there were a little bit of fights in dbz? People would think it was trash.

Dbz knows how to get people’s attention.

The best advice I can give you is to try and watch until they fight Arlong. You'll get your emotional backstories, your crazy adventures, and tear-jerking deaths in due time. One Piece is really basing itself more on the OG Dragonball than Z, to be honest.

The closest the show has come to a "super saiyan" moment is probably the Enies Lobby Arc with Zoro vs Kaku, Sanji vs Jyabura, Luffy's Gear Second powerup, Luffy vs Lucci, the Buster Call, everything blowing up, etc. The Marineford arc is pretty apocalyptic as well, but I can't say too much about that story without spoilers.

One thing that keeps me more invested in One Piece is that they don't waste all of their characters the way DBZ did.

Remember how Gohan went toe to toe with Frieza, gave the Cell Jr's that work and defeated Perfect Cell? Bushes.
Remember how Krillin one-shotted half of the Saibamen by himself, nearly killed Nappa, and cut Frieza's tail off? Bushes.
Remember how Piccolo trained Gohan and put in work against Frieza? Remember Piccolo's super gully fight against Android 17? Bushes.
Remember how Tien beat Goku in the World Tournament and held Cell back by himself? Bushes.
And Yamcha? They never treated his character right.

In One Piece, you'll get backstories for every member of the crew, and you get to see everybody shining and staying relevant to the plot. Characters from the earliest arcs will still be important and relevant years later. Major story arcs are foreshadowed hundreds of chapters in advance. Oda's level of planning is just on another level ( ) once you start really getting into One Piece.

 

[Balla]

The best advice I can give you is to try and watch until they fight Arlong. You'll get your emotional backstories, your crazy adventures, and tear-jerking deaths in due time. One Piece is really basing itself more on the OG Dragonball than Z, to be honest.

The closest the show has come to a "super saiyan" moment is probably the Enies Lobby Arc with Zoro vs Kaku, Sanji vs Jyabura, Luffy's Gear Second powerup, Luffy vs Lucci, the Buster Call, everything blowing up, etc. The Marineford arc is pretty apocalyptic as well, but I can't say too much about that story without spoilers.

One thing that keeps me more invested in One Piece is that they don't waste all of their characters the way DBZ did.

Remember how Gohan went toe to toe with Frieza, gave the Cell Jr's that work and defeated Perfect Cell? Bushes.
Remember how Krillin one-shotted half of the Saibamen by himself, nearly killed Nappa, and cut Frieza's tail off? Bushes.
Remember how Piccolo trained Gohan and put in work against Frieza? Remember Piccolo's super gully fight against Android 17? Bushes.
Remember how Tien beat Goku in the World Tournament and held Cell back by himself? Bushes.
And Yamcha? They never treated his character right.

In One Piece, you'll get backstories for every member of the crew, and you get to see everybody shining and staying relevant to the plot. Characters from the earliest arcs will still be important and relevant years later. Major story arcs are foreshadowed hundreds of chapters in advance. Oda's level of planning is just on another level ( ) once you start really getting into One Piece.

I don’t think I’ll ever watch the show because I’m way too far behind and don’t have time to watch 1000 episodes, I’ll try to watch major fights n shyt.

And in the buu saga you don’t think characters had shine? Gohan, Goten, trunks, Majin Vegeta?

I do feel they should have made everyone strong enough to handle some other villains, but I can tell with Z that they just wanted a show that was just pure action, fukk a story, and I admit that, but it would be weird to see dragon ball be a story like other animes, it just doesn’t fit it.

I’m not saying one piece is complete trash, but to me it ain’t fukkin with Dragon Ball anything.

Is there something that I can watch that will shorten the show lol? I’m curious to see what makes this show so good to everyone, I just ain’t got time to watch them all.

 

[Days of Future Piff]

I don’t think I’ll ever watch the show because I’m way too far behind and don’t have time to watch 1000 episodes, I’ll try to watch major fights n shyt.

And in the buu saga you don’t think characters had shine? Gohan, Goten, trunks, Majin Vegeta?

I do feel they should have made everyone strong enough to handle some other villains, but I can tell with Z that they just wanted a show that was just pure action, fukk a story, and I admit that, but it would be weird to see dragon ball be a story like other animes, it just doesn’t fit it.

I’m not saying one piece is complete trash, but to me it ain’t fukkin with Dragon Ball anything.

Is there something that I can watch that will shorten the show lol? I’m curious to see what makes this show so good to everyone, I just ain’t got time to watch them all.

As for catching up quickly, I'd recommend either reading the manga, or watching One Pace, which edits the series down significantly.
https://onepace.net/?episode=123

To get started, there's also the Episode of East Blue (on crunchyroll) that edits the first few arcs into a couple of hours. If you're not sure if you'll like it or not, this is a good place to start.
One Piece
There's an Alabasta movie out there somewhere, and there's also an episode of Skypeia on Crunchyroll. If you end up liking that, then DEFINITELY watch the Water 7 arc in the regular anime. No amount of re-editing would do it justice, it's a top 5 story arc in a manga.

As for the Buu Saga, it had some dope individual moments. SSJ3 Goku, and the final spirit bomb for example.
I never cared for Goten and Trunks though, to be honest. It felt too much like they had everything handed to them IMO. When Goku, Gohan, Vegeta, and Future Trunks went super saiyan, all of them were pushed past their breaking point.
With Goten and Trunks, it just felt like whatever when they turned.
Where's the buildup, tension, and suspense?

 

[Balla]

As for catching up quickly, I'd recommend either reading the manga, or watching One Pace, which edits the series down significantly.
https://onepace.net/?episode=123

To get started, there's also the Episode of East Blue (on crunchyroll) that edits the first few arcs into a couple of hours. If you're not sure if you'll like it or not, this is a good place to start.
One Piece
There's an Alabasta movie out there somewhere, and there's also an episode of Skypeia on Crunchyroll. If you end up liking that, then DEFINITELY watch the Water 7 arc in the regular anime. No amount of re-editing would do it justice, it's a top 5 story arc in a manga.

As for the Buu Saga, it had some dope individual moments. SSJ3 Goku, and the final spirit bomb for example.
I never cared for Goten and Trunks though, to be honest. It felt too much like they had everything handed to them IMO. When Goku, Gohan, Vegeta, and Future Trunks went super saiyan, all of them were pushed past their breaking point.
With Goten and Trunks, it just felt like whatever when they turned.
Where's the buildup, tension, and suspense?

U right about that, dbz got less suspenseful as the show went on, but I know that it’s that type of show, that’s why I think it did so well in America and it was such perfect timing it’s unbelievable.

That was really the first anime that came out and got popular right when Cartoon Network was getting popular, and it fit in with action cartoons very well. I still find it difficult to say dbz is an anime because it’s not emotional like that and reminds me of action heroes lol.

Anyway, how long you think it’ll take someone to watch one piece from beginning til now? Last time I saw anything one piece, luffy was fighting that nikka with the metal teeth that liked candy or some shyt, and I saw that because YouTube showed me it.

What are they up to now?