Reading up on Wilt, he was that nikka :wow:

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oh he could dunk from half court right
90 inch vertical
once had 3,000 rebounds in 3 quarters?



2 rings in an era where he was supposed to be so advanced and ahead of his time that it's like taking an ipad back to egypt :patrice:

2 rings.

2. :smugfavre:

That goes to show you how tough a league it was. Check this out:

The rookie Chamberlain then shocked Warriors' fans by saying he was thinking of retiring. He was tired of being double- and triple-teamed, and of teams coming down on him with hard fouls. Chamberlain feared he might lose his cool one day.[2] As Celtics forward Heinsohn said, himself no stranger to dirty play against Chamberlain: "Half the fouls against him were hard fouls ... he took the most brutal pounding of any player ever".

Sh*t wasn't sweet out there b. You actin' like it was a walk in the park for this nikka. And the fouls back there were not the ticky tack fouls of today, note Magic on Isaiah for reference.

Leading a talented squad of starters, including Maurice King, Gene Elstun, John Parker, Ron Lonesky and Lew Johnson, the Jayhawks went 13–1 until they lost a game 56–54 versus Oklahoma State, who held the ball the last three and a half minutes without any intention of scoring a basket, which was still possible in the days before the shot clock

^^^These are the kind of tactics teams used on him, holding the ball until the game ended :dead:. Just because you're a dope individual player doesn't mean your guaranteed a championship, and as good as he was, those Celtic/Laker/Sixer/Knick squads were stacked with HOF legends
 

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Wayne Embry played as heavy as 280lbs, Bill Russell 240lbs, Walt Bellamy 265lbs, Bob Pettit 240lbs... do you want me to cite all of these? Because I can.

I haven't bothered to look up the other players - but the trend will be the same. You really need to stop looking at bball reference and assuming that's how big those guys were. That's their draft data you fool. And their heights were actually measured accurately back then, unlike today where u have agents penciling in modern players at 1 to 2 inches greater than reality and often times fudging their weight too.

Let's go apples to apples with your sources, Draft data to Draft data shall we? Kobe is only 178lbs and Kevin Garnet is only 217lbs. Tyson Chandler is only 224lbs, Joakim Noah is only 223lbs, and even David "The Admiral" Robinson was a pathetic 226lb 7 footer. That's those players draft weights. You keep pullin this sh* you gonna be the first loser in Coli-History to earn a spot on my ignore list. Coli has a lot of smart basketball fans and I love the discussions here. But clowns like you are messin up a good thing. :ufdup:

That nikka put up a Knicks big man and did not show f*ckin' Willis Reed :russ: :deadrose: These nikkaz don't know what the f*ck they talkin' about.
 

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#1 Pick At It Again With His Stupid Opinions. So Because Willt Was Dominate And Bill Russell Has 11 Rings, Jordan Should Not Be Discussed As An NBA Elite

This Dusthead :laugh:
 

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#1 Pick At It Again With His Stupid Opinions. So Because Willt Was Dominate And Bill Russell Has 11 Rings, Jordan Should Not Be Discussed As An NBA Elite

This Dusthead :laugh:

dude had me :mindblown: with his stupidity and ignorance last night.

seriously, look at the chain of posts/quotes i had with him and try to make ANY sense of it.

he isnt even a troll, hes just really, really dumb :manny:
 

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and wilt played in a league with less teams, less playoff rounds, no european talent... no shot clock... the list is long

he averaged 50 points per game in a season!!!!
..... and it took him 40 fukkin shots per game to get there :childplease:

his stats are like babe ruth's stats. different shyttier era, that in today's modern game are impossible because of rule changes and better competition.

son scored 100 pts in a game, on 68 shots :dead:
when the fukk u gona see someone take damn near 70 shots in a game. kobe and jordan never got within 10 of that

WOW WOW WOW he averaged 25 rebounds per game!!!!!!! INCREDIBLE ACHIEVEMENT!

the league average rebounds per game that year was 71.4 rebounds per game... wilt averaged 25.7 a game... meaning he was responsible for 35% of his team's rebounds

in contrast, dennis rodman in 91-92 averaged 18.7 rebounds per game, the league average was 43 rpg...so rodman was responsible for over 43% of the piston's total rebounds.

so what's more impressive? 25.7 rebounds per game >>> 18.7 right?

:usure: :usure:

ppl always bring up this horse shyt about his track star days, or how he could leap buildings from a single bound... it's the nba and none of that shyt matters. and in the end, he only has 2 rings, the most incredible basketball mutant to ever live... 2 rings :patrice:

1) The guy averaged over 50% FG per year, if you making 1 out of 2, you feed him until they stop him

2) Dennis Rodman is one of the GOAT rebounders, you're comparing a GOAT to a GOAT and wondering why they seem similar? :rudy: That would be like comparing Sosa to McGwire and being like, Sosa was just an average HR hitter :ehh: ( :snoop: this some dumbazz sh*t)

3) You need to check the rosters of the teams he played against, HOF players are bolded

'65 Celtics:

21 Ron Bonham SF 6-5 192 May 31, 1942 R University of Cincinnati
11 Mel Counts C 7-0 230 October 16, 1941 R Oregon State University
17 John Havlicek SG 6-5 203 April 8, 1940 2 Ohio State University
15 Tom Heinsohn SF 6-7 218 August 26, 1934 8 College of the Holy Cross
25 K.C. Jones PG 6-1 200 May 25, 1932 6 University of San Francisco
24 Sam Jones SG 6-4 198 June 24, 1933 7 North Carolina Central University
12 Willie Naulls SF 6-6 225 October 7, 1934 8 University of California, Los Angeles
34 Bevo Nordmann C 6-10 225 December 11, 1939 3 Saint Louis University
6 Bill Russell C 6-10 215 February 12, 1934 8 University of San Francisco
16 Tom Sanders PF 6-6 210 November 8, 1938 4 New York University
20 Larry Siegfried SG 6-3 190 May 22, 1939 1 Ohio State University
18 John Thompson PF 6-10 225 September 2, 1941 R Providence College
4 Gerry Ward SG 6-4 195 September 6, 1941 1 Boston College

Note the Celtics had one true 7' and 3 6'10", talkin' about playing against 6'5" centers :rudy:


12 dikk Barnett SG 6-4 190 October 2, 1936 8 Tennessee State University
8 Walt Bellamy C 6-11 225 July 24, 1939 7 Indiana University
17 Nate Bowman C 6-10 230 March 19, 1943 2 Wichita State University
24 Bill Bradley SF 6-5 205 July 28, 1943 1 Princeton University
22 Dave DeBusschere PF 6-6 220 October 16, 1940 6 University of Detroit Mercy
10 Walt Frazier PG 6-4 200 March 29, 1945 1 Southern Illinois University
20 Bill Hosket PF 6-8 225 December 20, 1946 R Ohio State University
18 Phil Jackson PF 6-8 220 September 17, 1945 1 University of North Dakota
16 Howard Komives PG 6-1 185 May 9, 1941 4 Bowling Green State University
5 Don May SF 6-4 200 January 3, 1946 R University of Dayton
19 Willis Reed C 6-9 235 June 25, 1942 4 Grambling State University
6 Mike Riordan SF 6-4 200 July 9, 1945 R Providence College
33 Cazzie Russell SF 6-5 218 June 7, 1944 2 University of Michigan

33 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar C 7-2 225 April 16, 1947 1 University of California, Los Angeles
7 Lucius Allen PG 6-2 175 September 26, 1947 1 University of California, Los Angeles
20 Bob Boozer PF 6-8 215 April 26, 1937 10 Kansas State University
19 dikk Cunningham C 6-10 245 July 11, 1946 2 Murray State University
10 Bob Dandridge SF 6-6 195 November 15, 1947 1 Norfolk State University
17-27 Gary Freeman SF 6-9 210 July 25, 1948 R Oregon State University
18 Bob Greacen SF 6-7 206 September 15, 1947 1 Rutgers University
14 Jon McGlocklin SG 6-5 205 June 10, 1943 5 Indiana University
35 McCoy McLemore SF 6-7 230 April 3, 1942 6 Drake University
1 Oscar Robertson PG 6-5 205 November 24, 1938 10 University of Cincinnati
4 Greg Smith PF 6-5 195 January 28, 1947 2 Western Kentucky University
8 Jeff Webb SG 6-4 170 July 6, 1948 R Kansas State University
5 Marv Winkler G 6-1 164 February 18, 1948 R University of Louisiana at Lafayette
6 Bill Zopf PG 6-1 170 June 7, 1948 R Duquesne University

Hopefully this puts in perspective who he lost to. The only team with less than 4 HOF players can be argued to have the GOAT PG and possibly the GOAT C. On another note, how in the f*ck did the Celtics manage to get 6 HOF players on their roster at the same time? :huhldup: Saying Wilt should have won more would be like clowning Jordan for losing to the Celtics, Pistons, and Lakers. Those were GOAT type teams.
 

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He was a choker. He beasted in the regular season but tended to fade in the playoffs.
The reg season/playoffs stats prove it... Dropping 50+ was easy for him in the regular season but he only had four 50-pt playoffs games in his career (MJ had 8)
He averaged 11.7 points per game for the entire 1969 NBA Finals!
 

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That goes to show you how tough a league it was. Check this out:



Sh*t wasn't sweet out there b. You actin' like it was a walk in the park for this nikka. And the fouls back there were not the ticky tack fouls of today, note Magic on Isaiah for reference.



^^^These are the kind of tactics teams used on him, holding the ball until the game ended :dead:. Just because you're a dope individual player doesn't mean your guaranteed a championship, and as good as he was, those Celtic/Laker/Sixer/Knick squads were stacked with HOF legends

less teams and less playoff rounds = harder competition than the 80s, 90s or now? :rudy:

2 rings. for someone averaging 50 and 25 a game. it's funny how one minute i read "wilt was SO ahead of his time, he would rape everyone NOW the way he raped everyone back then because there was NOBODY who could fukk with him on any level he was lightyears ahead of everyone!!!"

then it's

"the competition back then was at an all time high their style was impetuous, their defenses were impregnable and they were just ferocious amazing athletes in wilt's days that's why he only won 2 rings"

:childplease:
 

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1) The guy averaged over 50% FG per year, if you making 1 out of 2, you feed him until they stop him

2) Dennis Rodman is one of the GOAT rebounders, you're comparing a GOAT to a GOAT and wondering why they seem similar? :rudy: That would be like comparing Sosa to McGwire and being like, Sosa was just an average HR hitter :ehh: ( :snoop: this some dumbazz sh*t)

3) You need to check the rosters of the teams he played against, HOF players are bolded

'65 Celtics:



Note the Celtics had one true 7' and 3 6'10", talkin' about playing against 6'5" centers :rudy:






Hopefully this puts in perspective who he lost to. The only team with less than 4 HOF players can be argued to have the GOAT PG and possibly the GOAT C. On another note, how in the f*ck did the Celtics manage to get 6 HOF players on their roster at the same time? :huhldup: Saying Wilt should have won more would be like clowning Jordan for losing to the Celtics, Pistons, and Lakers. Those were GOAT type teams.

1. if anyone saw the bill russell documentary they had on nbatv (or espn i forget) theres a little segment about rodman... and they discuss a 96 magazine cover where they had rodman on and a caption "Greatest rebounder ever?"
and russell talks about the 'disrespect' and how wilt called him asking him if he "believed this bullshyt" .. old players bitter as shyt. i already covered the differences between those old ass players and what rodman was doing against more + better + more athletic competition. Rodman >>>>>

2. @ the bolded. that's cool about him losing. i'm sure there's a million reasons for him losing. it's sad that he averaged alien numbers like 50 and 25 and still ended up losing.


and POOR POOR wilt, for NEVER playing with quality teammates, he literally played with the 50s/60s version of a d-league team his entire career :damn:
here are some examples of some of the TRASH he played with:

Baylor, West, Greer, Cunningham, Arizin, and Thurmond.
^^BUMS!!! bums that are in the "top 50 players ever" list. so trash that they were only selected to 24 all star games between them, between 1960-73.


in contrast... how many top 50 players did jordan play with in his career :smugfavre:
 

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He was a choker. He beasted in the regular season but tended to fade in the playoffs.
The reg season/playoffs stats prove it... Dropping 50+ was easy for him in the regular season but he only had four 50-pt playoffs games in his career (MJ had 8)
He averaged 11.7 points per game for the entire 1969 NBA Finals!

1) Van Brenda Koff benched him regularly throughout that 1969 season and the finals. One of the biggest debates ever was that would the Lakers have won if the coach went the final 6 minutes with Wilt instead of Mel Count. F*ck outta here.

2. A) He only averaged 50+ PPG ONCE, which was the '62 season. He scored 50 on Russell and the Celtics. B) What was Jordan's average against the Bad Boys? :troll: People talk about his "sh*tty" playoff play not realizing we talkin' about GOAT teams. Jordan scored 63 against the Cavs, that's so impressive :skip:
 

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1) Van Brenda Koff benched him regularly throughout that 1969 season and the finals. One of the biggest debates ever was that would the Lakers have won if the coach went the final 6 minutes with Wilt instead of Mel Count. F*ck outta here.

2. A) He only averaged 50+ PPG ONCE, which was the '62 season. He scored 50 on Russell and the Celtics. B) What was Jordan's average against the Bad Boys? :troll: People talk about his "sh*tty" playoff play not realizing we talkin' about GOAT teams. Jordan scored 63 against the Cavs, that's so impressive :skip:
1) He was benched after injuring his leg in the last 5 minutes of game 7. He was trash before that... Bill Russell and the Celtics said he was scared.
2) MJ averaged 30+pts and shot over 50% against the Bad Boys.
MJ averaged 33.5 pts in the playoffs for his career. He raised his game when the stakes were the highest.
Wilt dropped 50pts 118 times in the regular season but just 4 times in the playoffs

:sitdown:
 

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You sound mad Daniel-San....Ol Crane Kicking ass, Captain Save An Old Head:cape:






Quit crying like a bytch:rudy:

Oh the obligatory you mad statement. How cute and predictable.


The only bytch in here is you.
 
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