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Especially if it somehow turns into another R=G intervention/roast.
REAL TALK: WWE & It's Stans Actually Shames Their Own Fans For Who & What They Like
- Thread starter The Amerikkkan Idol
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Especially if it somehow turns into another R=G intervention/roast.
Champagne Kudo
Shyness Boy
Give it time
We don't another one of those
Here Comes the Pain
Superstar
Vince been out of touch and that going back to the early 90s.
What's this attitude problem about? It's wrong if people get behind Sasha, AJ, and Ambrose? They did something wrong by being different and getting over? If people want to cheer AJ for having a great in ring reputation? That's how it is. If people want to POP that loud for Sasha at the Rumble for having close to 3 different 5 Star level matches in one year? What's the beef? LOL.
MrSinnister
Delete account when possible.
He was wrong. Another Vince gets closer, but too addicted to fukkery to meld story to reality.
MrSinnister
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Love this thread. OP is exactly right, and this is the ONLY source of entertainment that completely baits and then shots on its own customers. Pretty sure Attitude Era put Vince's head permanently up his ass.
They can watch ratings dip for years on end, and hear people below the shot outta their main star, but assume he's going to get completely over in time if he is forced even more. No one was ever tired of Lesnar's first run, outside of Lesnar. I think if he'd have hid that Shooting Star Press for his ultimate WM moment, a lot of problems would likely have been fixed. That's just my theory as Cena just inspired too much bunker mentality, and that's not good for a businessman.
They can watch ratings dip for years on end, and hear people below the shot outta their main star, but assume he's going to get completely over in time if he is forced even more. No one was ever tired of Lesnar's first run, outside of Lesnar. I think if he'd have hid that Shooting Star Press for his ultimate WM moment, a lot of problems would likely have been fixed. That's just my theory as Cena just inspired too much bunker mentality, and that's not good for a businessman.
Yet this thread was made.
WWE is just doing what the average person would do in a conversation but they're doing it because it's part of their plan.
Vince doesn't give two shyts about what the fans want. He's just very fortunate that people running other companies either don't have the financial backing, or are too incompetent to compete with him.
Also, they lack the history and lineage of the WWE.
They're content to stay boring and safe because they have nothing to fear.
Also, they lack the history and lineage of the WWE.
They're content to stay boring and safe because they have nothing to fear.
The Amerikkkan Idol
The Amerikkkan Nightmare
And smarks and neckbeards say the fans who pay money and legit like cena and Orton and Wyatt and Brock and sheamus and buy merch are suckers and don't know better, its odd you didn't mention that
Yeah, but fans don't have an obligation to other fans because fans aren't paying other fans. They are paying customers of a brand, they have the right to demand or to complain about a brand that they use or frequent.
If I eat at McDonalds and it sucks and I post, "Man, that burger sucked", people aren't gonna jump down my throat, especially if McDonalds has been getting worse and worse in quality. You're also not gonna see people who do like McDonalds trolling the people who don't like it.
It makes no sense.
If I bought the hamburger, I have a right to think it sucks and most people generally seem to agree with that.
In wrestling though, people act as if you have to like everything a company does or somehow YOU are the problem.
Exactly, let Hollywood keep losing money because they're casting some guy the fans don't like in movies. They'll cut his ass out in a minute and they're not gonna tell the fans they're wrong.
They're gonna find somebody that will bring in money, not just keep pushing the same story or guy down everybody's throats until they like it. It's so counterintuitive, if you're trying to make money.
But that's like saying, you can't let music fans just decide who's records they want to buy. They must be forced to buy records from people they don't like too. It's insane.
And your point is?
I refuse to order the WWE Network, buy their merchandise, or PPVs BECAUSE of the way they do business and there's lots of fans who feel the same way
From a business stand point i get it.
Just an example, they decide they want to push someone. Lets say someone from NXT gets called up, Johnny Gargano. WWE decides they're gonna do a load of merch, vignettes the whole 9 in pushing him. Spent a pretty penny. He goes out there....and fans reject him, nothing to warrant this rejection they simply not diggin it. Now thats money wasted.
That's called dumb business decision making...not having the pulse of your audience leads to that.
PlayerNinety_Nine
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I think their current situation is a perfect storm of Vince being a 70 year old man, trying to book a product for modern kids, with minimal understanding of current pop culture, and no-one being in a position to tell him when he's wrong.
He'll have Roman deliver a promo with a catchphrase from a cartoon character that debuted in 1945, but then can't understand why he doesn't get over, unanimously. He doesn't appear to credit the audience with much intelligence. No-one buys Roman as an underdog in the mold of Daniel Bryan, but he's written as such.
Playing Devil's Advocate - The audience doesn't help their own cause, though. All Vince has to do is point in the direction of last week's Rock promo for vindication. As many people that say they want 'The Attitude Era' back, there were people who screamed 'slut shaming' when Rock insinuated that he'd fukked Lana.
That's why I feel for AJ - As popular as he is now, The Miz promo last night had Vince's fingerprints all over it, even down to the closing line. Even if it's a total work, from what we learned about Vince's ideas of what a wrestler should look like, if he doesn't work out - it wouldn't be a shock.
If they bury him because he made his name elsewhere after spending - what I assume - was good money for him, they're shooting themselves in the foot.
Whatever they do to Nakamura, he'll go home a bigger star than when he came to America on 'excursion', so barring a ludicrously dated, racist gimmick or horrific injury, in the long run - I feel like he'll be cool.
He'll have Roman deliver a promo with a catchphrase from a cartoon character that debuted in 1945, but then can't understand why he doesn't get over, unanimously. He doesn't appear to credit the audience with much intelligence. No-one buys Roman as an underdog in the mold of Daniel Bryan, but he's written as such.
Playing Devil's Advocate - The audience doesn't help their own cause, though. All Vince has to do is point in the direction of last week's Rock promo for vindication. As many people that say they want 'The Attitude Era' back, there were people who screamed 'slut shaming' when Rock insinuated that he'd fukked Lana.
That's why I feel for AJ - As popular as he is now, The Miz promo last night had Vince's fingerprints all over it, even down to the closing line. Even if it's a total work, from what we learned about Vince's ideas of what a wrestler should look like, if he doesn't work out - it wouldn't be a shock.
If they bury him because he made his name elsewhere after spending - what I assume - was good money for him, they're shooting themselves in the foot.
Whatever they do to Nakamura, he'll go home a bigger star than when he came to America on 'excursion', so barring a ludicrously dated, racist gimmick or horrific injury, in the long run - I feel like he'll be cool.
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The Amerikkkan Idol
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Oh well. Think about how much money Coca-Cola wasted on "Coke II". They spent MILLIONS of dollars promoting "New Coke" and the customers said "fukk that, we want old coke", so they had to bring back regular Coke.
Pepsi lost millions on Crystal Pepsi.
That's life.
You can't force people to like a product they don't like
Yeah, but is it the same people though? Is the type of person who wants "Attitude Era" the same person who claims "slut-shaming"?
And is that really what people want when they say they want "Attitude Era" back?
They probably just want hardcore matches and crazy storylines, not necessarily Rock randomly calling Lana a hoe for no reason at all.
When I think attitude era, I think Taker and Mick Foley "Hell In A Cell" or Bret Hart/Stone Cold or The Rock/Triple H