relationships are a pain man....like am i wrong here?!!

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That won’t last for long. Breh if you are going to be in an actual adult relationship it’s going to be work and there are going to be ups and downs. There isn’t much way around that. You goofed a lot but if you think you are going to find a woman, live with her and not be bothered then you are in a different timeline.

Most of these women have reached a point where their ultimate happiness does not depend on a man. Those early 30s, successful, being single for a minute , childless woman appreciate a man on similar level n view dating more as a partnership then some romance novel.

I brought up us potentially ending things this morning and she got very emotional cried and said she is not ready to give up on us and mentioned exactly what you said about up and downs. Women are an emotional roller coaster. The fact that we were great friends beforehand makes things more complex. One of the few women I can truly trust.

I just wish she was a bit more emotionally independent. I am not trying to be the guy divorced in 10 years, salty as hell with life lol.
 

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By leaving the house, honestly.
Lol she went to Vegas alone :manny:
After reading some of your other post, are you suggesting that he should focus on more dates throughout the year and cut back on some of these big trips and big holidays/events. The reason I bring this up because judging by his 1st post he probably is spending a lot of bread on vacations, birthdays/holidays. If I am reading it right he took her on 1 big trip earlier in the year, 2 overseas trip in the middle of the year lasting almost a week, and he spend a lot on her birthday and valentine day. Most likely he going to spend a lot during Christmas. If you add all of this up it sound very expensive. I can understand if he feel some type of way when she say he is not courting her enough. I would be mad too if I spent all this bread throughout the year and only hearing about not courting her enough. Unless he make a lot of money then he is going to have to cut back on something in order to take her out/court her like she want him too.
I think he has to be mindful all throughout the year and I also don’t think he should be footing all the bills either. Trips they can save up for together, but what’s wrong with watching the game at a new bar or trying a new restaurant once a month? Even trying a new recipe at home by cooking together. Just integrating things into your everyday life.

I think it boils down to personality. I’m not a person that is going to wait for vacation once a year to have fun or try something new. I’m also budget conscious, so I build in money for activities, but not spending a lot at all.
 

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Dude has the money. He’s a part of 6figs, 6 certs and he lives in the south.

Some people are just laid back and lowkey, despite the finances.

From I what I can piece together they’re incompatible, because she seems extroverted and he’s introverted.

Also I get how going on a formal date once month, seems offsetting, especially since they don’t have kids.
Lol so you only need a formal date night to escape from kids? The daily vigors of work aren’t enough?

Again, how are you guys nurturing your other relationships? Text message?
 

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Lol so you only need a formal date night to escape from kids? The daily vigors of work aren’t enough?

Again, how are you guys nurturing your other relationships? Text message?
I'm agreeing.

I'm saying there's even less of excuses since there's no kids involved.

I usually strive to have a formal date night, at least once a week.

And dates were only one component of what she was asking for.

She was asking for random acts of appreciation,, without having to ask.



I usually do some combination of buying flowers, booking a manicure / pedicure appointment booking a couples massage or coping a $25 gift card to somewhere a woman, I'm dealing with likes, every so often.

These little gestures go a long way imo.

Because like I mentioned before the problem is, while OP maybe doing a lot. Men are always being compared to or competing against: what a woman's past ex's did, what men who to smash did, what women see on social media, what women read and what their friends are bragging about.
 
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I think he has to be mindful all throughout the year and I also don’t think he should be footing all the bills either. Trips they can save up for together, but what’s wrong with watching the game at a new bar or trying a new restaurant once a month? Even trying a new recipe at home by cooking together. Just integrating things into your everyday life.

I think it boils down to personality. I’m not a person that is going to wait for vacation once a year to have fun or try something new. I’m also budget conscious, so I build in money for activities, but not spending a lot at all.
I agree with you there is nothing wrong with going out once a month and finding new places. But in this instance it sound she want to go out almost every weekend based on his post. Unless I misreading it he went on 3 vacations this year with her and the majority of his PTO probably was used on vacation. If they are both footing the bill for the vacation then I can understand some of her point but if he is paying the majority of the bill then he got a valid reason to be upset.

Like you I am budget conscious and save for most big ticket items but it would still hurt my pockets to go the type of vacations they are going on plus go out almost every weekend. Those vacations he listed sound they are $2K-$5K (5 start hotels, overseas, food, etc).
 

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I have to disagree playa because for starters he shouldn't change who he is for a women. He is a MAN which makes him a leader by default in a relationship. To put it simply he needs to find a women who will get on HIS program.

never be a women's personal court jester
:youngsabo: I'm not telling him to change who he is, I'm telling him to be considerate of the other person in the relationship. Is it hard to listen to your partner, Is it hard to be bit spontanteous? Is it harrd to make actual effort? It's not like she sasking you to make double your salary, on unicycle and make her laugh.

Leader by default makes me laugh btw, it's a partnership. act like it.
 
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Most of these women have reached a point where their ultimate happiness does not depend on a man. Those early 30s, successful, being single for a minute , childless woman appreciate a man on similar level n view dating more as a partnership then some romance novel.

I brought up us potentially ending things this morning and she got very emotional cried and said she is not ready to give up on us and mentioned exactly what you said about up and downs. Women are an emotional roller coaster. The fact that we were great friends beforehand makes things more complex. One of the few women I can truly trust.

I just wish she was a bit more emotionally independent. I am not trying to be the guy divorced in 10 years, salty as hell with life lol.
You didn't expect her to say anything different did you?
 

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You didn't expect her to say anything different did you?
Now she knows what type of time he on, and going to get on that exit plan(probably already has but now she really knows she gotta get on that).

OP lost, it is what it is . Life goes on

Edit: he said she cried , now whatever she’s planning won’t be complete until his ass is in tears begging . You bout to get check mated bud
 
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Most of these women have reached a point where their ultimate happiness does not depend on a man. Those early 30s, successful, being single for a minute , childless woman appreciate a man on similar level n view dating more as a partnership then some romance novel.

I brought up us potentially ending things this morning and she got very emotional cried and said she is not ready to give up on us and mentioned exactly what you said about up and downs. Women are an emotional roller coaster. The fact that we were great friends beforehand makes things more complex. One of the few women I can truly trust.

I just wish she was a bit more emotionally independent. I am not trying to be the guy divorced in 10 years, salty as hell with life lol.

What are your zodiac signs? Just trying to get a better understanding of you and your partner's personalities.
 
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