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... A little insight on how and why Islam is the religion of peace. Also, on why others practicing Islam shouldn't offend or incite craziness in anyone. Also, why Muslims make the world a better place over all....
 

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First off.. most people are unmoral in some way. Most people only care about themselves and their own children. I don't believe most people are evil, but I do know that most people simply don't give a fukk about anything other than survival and a few niche interest.
Islam helps most of its 2 billion followers stay moral, charitable, focused, and helpful to their fellow man. Because there are only 7 billion people on this planet, a large chunk of people being focused on those objectives to the best of their ability and also having a support system to encourage that behavior is obviously a good thing.
 

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There are always a few bad apples.. There are a few Muslims that practice a cultish version of it. However, even out of these Muslims, most of those people are honest and good people.

According to one opinion:
“Everyone thinks that Islam is this fanatical religion, but it is not,”“They think that Islam—the Saudi version of Islam—is typical, but it’s not. The Wahhabi cult has been condemned as a heresy more than 60 times by the Muslim nations. But when the Saudis got wealthy, they bought a lot of silence. This is a very harsh cult. Wahhabism was only practiced by the Taliban and in Saudi Arabia—that’s how extreme it is. It really has nothing to do with Islam. Islam is a very peaceful and tolerant religion. It always had good relationships with the Jews for the first thousand years of its existence.”
 

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Also,

The True, Peaceful Face Of Islam - TIME

There are 1.2 billion Muslims in the world, and Islam is the world's fastest-growing religion. If the evil carnage we witnessed on Sept. 11 were typical of the faith, and Islam truly inspired and justified such violence, its growth and the increasing presence of Muslims in both Europe and the U.S. would be a terrifying prospect. Fortunately, this is not the case.
 

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Pre-Islamic Arabia was caught up in a vicious cycle of warfare, in which tribe fought tribe in a pattern of vendetta and countervendetta. Muhammad himself survived several assassination attempts, and the early Muslim community narrowly escaped extermination by the powerful city of Mecca. The Prophet had to fight a deadly war in order to survive, but as soon as he felt his people were probably safe, he devoted his attention to building up a peaceful coalition of tribes and achieved victory by an ingenious and inspiring campaign of nonviolence. When he died in 632, he had almost single-handedly brought peace to war-torn Arabia.

Because the Koran was revealed in the context of an all-out war, several passages deal with the conduct of armed struggle. Warfare was a desperate business on the Arabian Peninsula. A chieftain was not expected to spare survivors after a battle, and some of the Koranic injunctions seem to share this spirit. Muslims are ordered by God to "slay [enemies] wherever you find them!" (4: 89). Extremists such as Osama bin Laden like to quote such verses but do so selectively. They do not include the exhortations to peace, which in almost every case follow these more ferocious passages: "Thus, if they let you be, and do not make war on you, and offer you peace, God does not allow you to harm them" (4: 90).

In the Koran, therefore, the only permissible war is one of self-defense. Muslims may not begin hostilities (2: 190). Warfare is always evil, but sometimes you have to fight in order to avoid the kind of persecution that Mecca inflicted on the Muslims (2: 191; 2: 217) or to preserve decent values (4: 75; 22: 40). The Koran quotes the Torah, the Jewish scriptures, which permits people to retaliate eye for eye, tooth for tooth, but like the Gospels, the Koran suggests that it is meritorious to forgo revenge in a spirit of charity (5: 45). Hostilities must be brought to an end as quickly as possible and must cease the minute the enemy sues for peace (2: 192-3).
 

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:ehh: interesting, that must be why theres such a strong pushback when muslims try to implement that disgusting excuse for a way to live called sharia law

Islamic Sharia Law Comes to Great Britain - World - CBN News - Christian News 24-7 - CBN.com

"Islam permeates every aspect of one’s life and being; how you conduct yourself at work, how you treat family and friends, even in the way you do business. At the same time it allows for great variation in cultures across the world, personal growth and individual opinion.


The worship of God is not restricted to mosques alone but is in all aspects of life and work. In this way advances in science, exploration, art and discovering the mysteries of the world, all done with the intention of understanding God and his creation, are all acts of worshiping him. It was this philosophy that encouraged great Muslim scholars of the past to seek knowledge to improve the human condition.


The unifying belief in one God brings Muslims from all over the world together as one family. When a Muslim passes another Muslim in the street, they will greet each other with ‘Salaam-Peace.’"
 

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"Islam permeates every aspect of one’s life and being; how you conduct yourself at work, how you treat family and friends, even in the way you do business. At the same time it allows for great variation in cultures across the world, personal growth and individual opinion.


The worship of God is not restricted to mosques alone but is in all aspects of life and work. In this way advances in science, exploration, art and discovering the mysteries of the world, all done with the intention of understanding God and his creation, are all acts of worshiping him. It was this philosophy that encouraged great Muslim scholars of the past to seek knowledge to improve the human condition.


The unifying belief in one God brings Muslims from all over the world together as one family. When a Muslim passes another Muslim in the street, they will greet each other with ‘Salaam-Peace.’"

was that supposed to be a response :what:

why do u think theres such strong pushback to sharia law?
 

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There has been much written about the need to rethink the writing of world history. Jack Goody describes the aim of his book The Theft of History as "to show how Europe has not simply neglected or underplayed the history of the rest of the world, as a consequence of which it has misinterpreted its own history, but also how it has imposed historical concepts and periods that have aggravated our understanding of Asia in a way that is significant for the future as well as for the past." He is one of several scholars who have addressed the need to escape from the selective and inadequate narratives of the Eurocentric past, and to understand much more clearly the intimate linkages that have always existed between European and Asian cultures and histories.

Islam, Europe, and history: across the frontiers | openDemocracy
 

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all of this is very true, and most could be pretty directly applied to Christianity as well. Would you agree?
 

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was that supposed to be a response :what:

why do u think theres such strong pushback to sharia law?
I'm not sure.. maybe because some of it goes against what we are used to in democracies. In Western Democracies the goals are to allow people to feel freedom- so that they can support and contribute to their own mental and monetary enslavement.

I'm not really a fan of some of those Sharia laws (the interpretation of the laws made by certain arab leaders)... I live in MI so I'm very familiar with the push back. MI legislators have even proposed anti-sharia laws for the MI law books... we have Dearborn and other cities here that are over taken with Muslims from 3rd world nations.

In the poorest most remote areas on our planets..the people and mentalities have not advanced to the levels of other places. There are non-islamic areas that have gruesome practices that make Sharia law look like something that mika brzezinski would support. It's simply indicative of extreme poverty and political corruption.

but to put it plainly

In 39 countries in Africa, Asia, and the Middle East, Pew held over 38,000 interviews with Muslims in over 80 languages. And what they found, overwhelming, is that Muslims in that area of the world want Sharia law to be the law of their country.

Before people start sweating about Muslims taking over the world, let me clarify that Sharia law is not the terrorist-fueling radicalism you think it is. Here’s some other things that it is not:

It is not a system designed to convert everyone to Islam: Vast numbers of Muslims, even in theocratic states, support religious freedom and strongly believe the right to practice your own religion is a benefit to society.

It is not meant to convert people to live culturally like Muslims: Sharia law only ever applies to Muslims.

It is not a way for radical Islamic groups to seize control of countries: In fact, over half of the Muslims surveyed are concerned about the growing power of religious extremist groups in their own country, well outside of sharia law. And the majority strongly reject attacks against civilians in the name of Islam.

It is not a primitive system of eye-for-an-eye justice: Muslims do not support severe punishments (like cutting off a hand to punish theft) as accurate interpretations of sharia law.

It is not the creation of a dictator: The same Muslims that support sharia law strongly favor democracy over authoritarian rule.

It is not a means to oppress women: Muslim women supporting sharia law also believe that they should be able to make religious decisions (like whether or not to wear the veil) themselves, and neither men nor women believe in honor killing outside of Afghanistan and Iraq.

Now that all those misconceptions are out of the way, we can address what sharia law really is. It is the "divine law" based on the teachings of Prophet Mohammad and the Qu'ran, mostly relating to behaviors in the domestic sphere such as clothing, food, hygiene, prayer, inheritance, and fasting.

This isn't to say that sharia law (like any other kind of rule) can't be twisted or misinterpreted for darker purposes; it can and it has been used to cause pain and suffering to thousands. But the takeaway here is that at its base level, Sharia law, as conceived by the Muslims polled here, can be a moderate, democratic system.

And while the West has been conditioned to wince or glower at the very word, the majority of Muslims are at peace with their modern-day Islam.
 

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all of this is very true, and most could be pretty directly applied to Christianity as well. Would you agree?

Yes, Christianity is probably the most powerful message as far as self empowerment the world has ever known, next to Buddha. The messages that Jesus dropped about human beings are priceless if you really study them and pay attention. If Europeans hadn't manipulated Christianity the entire would be free. I'm a Muslim, but studying Christianity is probably one of the reasons why I'm on a track to become a millionaire.. and why- when I do earn what I need to earn I'm donating it all to causes to help my people. Pretty much, my goal is to be a lighter version of Jesus and represent what he stood for.
 

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Why is there "a religion of peace" and not just Peace? Just cut the middle man and get to it. I mean peace is literally sitting on your ass. You don't need to fight for it. You need a time out.
 

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the cac mamba 1 stared this.. so I feel like it was a needed thread.

Anyway-
After the expansion of Islam into the Middle East from the Arabian Peninsula, Jews, along with Christians and Zoroastrians, typically had the legal status of dhimmi. As such, they were accorded certain rights and generally not persecuted for their religious beliefs, unlike many other parts of Medieval Europe.
 
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