Remember a year ago when Drake fans set an imaginary deadline for Meek to respond to Back To Back??

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Meek dissed Drake on social media, Drake responded with bars, Meek kept on talking on social media, Drake dropped another song, Meek being a battle rapper got pressured by everyone.

first off Meek was on tour and just stated a fact, like yo "this nikka drake had another nikka write his verse on my song"
that's it he didn't say "Drake's a bytch, rap battle me nikka"

there didn't even have to be a rap beef, Drake just knew he couldn't sit around while another nikka exposes him for being a fraud

and Meek was on tour so how would he respond with a song?

then when he did everyone was like "it's trash, drake killed you" even tho it better than Back to Back on a diss level

Meek's disses was waay worse than Drake saying "is that your girls tour or your world tour"

this whole beef was determined by Drakes twitter stans
 

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A bit?! :dahell:

Reference tracks and a bunch of writers doing work inside tents is just "a bit" ?

Good lord. :snoop:
He has like why 120-150 songs and had help on like 10-15 of them to varying degrees from a bar or two to complete concept and flow. I would call that a bit.



You weirdos are on his dikk too damn firmly :whew:. For not fukking with duke this forum specifically is a bit spooky.
 

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He has like why 120-150 songs and had help on like 10-15 of them to varying degrees from a bar or two to complete concept and flow. I would call that a bit.

You have no idea how many songs he had reference tracks or ghostwriters for. We weren't supposed to find out about the reference tracks at all and they managed to be leaked. There's a reason why they were such a big deal.

At the moment, we know for sure he has used reference tracks and one of his writers put out the tents story during an interview at a big radio station. Those two things alone can help any artist, especially in hip-hop, have a major leg up over the competition in terms of creativity.
You weirdos are on his dikk too damn firmly :whew:. For not fukking with duke this forum specifically is a bit spooky.

We're simply calling out the bullshyt when we see it. Saying reference tracks and having writers write your shyt is "a bit" of help is pure bullshyt.
 

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You have no idea how many songs he had reference tracks or ghostwriters for. We weren't supposed to find out about the reference tracks at all and they managed to be leaked. There's a reason why they were such a big deal.

At the moment, we know for sure he has used reference tracks and one of his writers put out the tents story during an interview at a big radio station. Those two things alone can help any artist, especially in hip-hop, have a major leg up over the competition in terms of creativity.

We're simply calling out the bullshyt when we see it. Saying reference tracks and having writers write your shyt is "a bit" of help is pure bullshyt.
In pretty sure people were wondering who Q. Miller was in the credits.

That he didn't have one for Rico that is worrying. Perhaps it was cause he didn't use anything of his Rico input.
But his name was there on his album.
So I know about his own songs.

As far as wack ass Hush goes, that's simple. Drake is letting Universal pay for his weed carrier/body guard out of the budget instead of using his own money. Dude was a wack ass gangster rapper and had credits on creative life songs, doesn't even make sense. Weeknd was highly praised, talked openly about his work on Take Care and his name is there.
 

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This is just corny from both Drake Stans and Budden bytches...

One realization for both; A rapper going platinum for the 9th time isn't going to respond to a guy who's literally shadow boxing on twitter. The same coke fiend who tried to start something with Jay-Z...c'mon man. You treat him like you do every crackhead...ignore and move on. Then there's the fact that all this is bait because Benjamin Budden over there is having coke flashbacks and think Drake sneak dissed him...c'mon son. :dahell::childplease:
 

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1. I can sue anyone for anything
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3. Not one credible person has said anything about this very issue, fake is a very broad word.

You really think all the CEOs of major companies that are in serious competition are talking about a bidding war, traveling across the country to see Drakes promotion shows and commit fraud and risking their careers/freedom just to help Birdman :mjlol:.

I give up.
Yes give up. Cause you obviously 12 years old


YOU can sue for anything. The US govt can't sue corporations for anything. And they definitely can't win.

The first major payola investigation occurred in the early 1960s. Nationally renowned DJ Alan Freed, who was uncooperative in committee hearings, was fired as a result. dikk Clark also testified before the committee, but survived, partially due to the fact that he had previously divested himself of ownership interest in all of his music-industry holdings.

After the initial investigation, radio DJs were stripped of the authority to make programming decisions, and payola became a misdemeanor offense. Programming decisions became the responsibility of station program directors. As a result, the process of persuading stations to play certain songs was simplified. Instead of reaching numerous DJs, record labels only had to connect with one station program director.

Labels turned to independent promoters to circumvent allegations of payola. This practice grew more and more widespread until a 1986 NBC News investigation called "The New Payola" instigated another round of Congressional investigations. With the creation of Napster and other now illegal music sharing websites, the power of the independent promoters began to decline. Labels once more began dealing with stations directly.

In 2002, investigations by the office of then-New York District Attorney Eliot Spitzer uncovered evidence that executives at Sony BMG music labels had made deals with several large commercial radio chains. In July 2005, the company acknowledged their improper promotional practices and agreed to pay a $10 million fine


And. No. Nobody ever said everyone was in on it dummy

You think Wayne taking an unknown on his tour, giving him work, putting him on songs, and calling him cash money, but had no paperwork on him?


Cash money lied to get drake buzzing, knowing damn well he was signed the whole time. Same as interscope did with Kendrick.

Wendy Day, who got cash money their first two deals, has said as much



But keep believing rap fairytales. More power to ya
 

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Same as interscope did with Kendrick.

Came in to say this.

If it happened with Kendrick....which it did, because Tech N9ne's manager had right of first refusal on TDE, and point blank told people Interscope signed them and pretended they were indie long after the fact....then I'm :dead: at people acting like it's some completely unfathomable concept that Drake did the same thing.

Fred.
 

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In pretty sure people were wondering who Q. Miller was in the credits.

That he didn't have one for Rico that is worrying. Perhaps it was cause he didn't use anything of his Rico input.
But his name was there on his album.
So I know about his own songs.

As far as wack ass Hush goes, that's simple. Drake is letting Universal pay for his weed carrier/body guard out of the budget instead of using his own money. Dude was a wack ass gangster rapper and had credits on creative life songs, doesn't even make sense. Weeknd was highly praised, talked openly about his work on Take Care and his name is there.
hush is wack but has writing credits on his best songs, helps write the shyt where drake is actually spitting. Makes a lot of sense. :jbhmm:

If drake was letting his weed carriers get universal pay then the actual wack rappers like p reign, jonny roxx and OB would be all over the credits. :mjlol:

I just tried to find that Slant article about Hush writing for drake but it got deleted, I wonder why? :mjpls::gurl:
 
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Yes give up. Cause you obviously 12 years old


YOU can sue for anything. The US govt can't sue corporations for anything. And they definitely can't win.




And. No. Nobody ever said everyone was in on it dummy

You think Wayne taking an unknown on his tour, giving him work, putting him on songs, and calling him cash money, but had no paperwork on him?


Cash money lied to get drake buzzing, knowing damn well he was signed the whole time. Same as interscope did with Kendrick.

Wendy Day, who got cash money their first two deals, has said as much



But keep believing rap fairytales. More power to ya
You quoted something else thinking I wasn't gonna read it? :mjlol:

And Wayne was trying to sign Drake. They had the same manager, Wayne was doing Cortez/Hiphop and them a favor plus trying to sign him. I've been flown to states for summer internships. Companies spend money on trying to get the right people. If those people happen to be people like Drake, they'll spend more.

He was one out of 25 weed carriers it wasn't an expensive hang around. And Wayne was spitting bars on just about everything back then.
 

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@Harry B hush is a weed carrier who has credits on... All of drakes most lyrical and best songs... Is that how drake feeds his weed carriers? With writing credits? Also, the dude changed his name from young tony to Hush... Finally, how would you know if he was wack or not? He hasnt made a song in 10 years for some inexplicable reason.

Whose delusional now?
 
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You quoted something else thinking I wasn't gonna read it? :mjlol:

And Wayne was trying to sign Drake. They had the same manager, Wayne was doing Cortez/Hiphop and them a favor plus trying to sign him. I've been flown to states for summer internships. Companies spend money on trying to get the right people. If those people happen to be people like Drake, they'll spend more.

He was one out of 25 weed carriers it wasn't an expensive hang around. And Wayne was spitting bars on just about everything back then.
why wouldn't you read it when i directly quoted you nikka?

nothing you are saying refutes anything i said.. you believe wayne did all this as a favor... i believe drake was already signed


a year later he would pull the exact same gimmick with nicki... taking her on tour, putting her on albums, saying she wasn't signed... then low and behold, he happens to win the bidding war vs major fukking record labels... a nikka who didn't even actually own his own label, who is suing baby and cash money for never seeing 1 royalty from drake or nicki.... is now to be believed to have outbid majors.... yea ok
 

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why wouldn't you read it when i directly quoted you nikka?

nothing you are saying refutes anything i said.. you believe wayne did all this as a favor... i believe drake was already signed


a year later he would pull the exact same gimmick with nicki... taking her on tour, putting her on albums, saying she wasn't signed... then low and behold, he happens to win the bidding war vs major fukking record labels... a nikka who didn't even actually own his own label, who is suing baby and cash money for never seeing 1 royalty from drake or nicki.... is now to be believed to have outbid majors.... yea ok
Drake came from being a complete nobody to getting to meet Wayne, Wayne gave him two verses which he recorded in his bus while he was on tour.

Drake wasn't featured on a damn tour, Wayne's managers also Jay-z's former head people made it happen he was signed to them + Waynes main man, Birdman and Slim weren't even really involved at this point as you mention Wayne wasn't making those type of moves. Dude had some of the deepest mana


I know of deals where people are signed far before it's announced, Wiz Khalifa was signed to Warner Bros flopped and then "signed" to a company Warner owns, Atlantic. It's not like a I don't believe that it doesn't happen, it's that it doesn't make any sense for some of the biggest CEOs and competitors in the whole industry to come together to commit fraud, for an untested, unsigned, young black dude with zero hits, zero anything. There's also several factors explaining his connection to Wayne, there's several factors explaining Wayne as a person, and on.
 

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@Harry B hush is a weed carrier who has credits on... All of drakes most lyrical and best songs... Is that how drake feeds his weed carriers? With writing credits? Also, the dude changed his name from young tony to Hush... Finally, how would you know if he was wack or not? He hasnt made a song in 10 years for some inexplicable reason.

Whose delusional now?
He was wack 10 years ago, I don't know why he would become dope all of a sudden and not rap when he finally got the platform. He might give some input as a friend, as I assume any friend does. "That was wack", "That's dope". His most famous appearance is on one where Drake murks out every "nice rapper" from Toronto called Good Riddance. They are on different planets.
And he is on like 80 % of his songs on Take Care and NWTS, :what:. And he was an engineer on SFG and TML, everyone knows that he's not a damn engineer. Hush was the only one of the team without an official position. Perhaps Chubbs too, unless he's official security. I think Hush works with artists now that they have a few dudes in the stable, which is why he has n't been featured on a Drake project since 2013.

Why would a gangster rapper, who can't write be writing song like Connect, Wu-tang forever, Take Care and on? If Drake needed people to write soft R&B songs he could get anyone.
 
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He was wack 10 years ago, I don't know why he would become dope all of a sudden and not rap when he finally got the platform.
And he is on like 80 % of his songs on Take Care and NWTS, :what:. And he was an engineer on SFG and TML, everyone knows that he's not a damn engineer. Hush was the only one of the team without an official position. Perhaps Chubbs too, unless he's official security. I think Hush works with artists now that they have a few dudes in the stable, which is why he has n't been featured on a Drake project since 2013.

Why would a gangster rapper, who can't write be writing song like Connect, Wu-tang forever, Take Care and on? If Drake needed people to write soft R&B songs he could get anyone.
Dont ask me those rhetorical questions. The fact remains that I have heard Wu Tang forever and there are some bars on it that are solid for example. The bottom line is he does write for Drake and that is evidenced by his... Writing credits. We saw what a drake writing credit means for someone like QM. The benefit of the doubt is not with drake in this case and you know that but you choose to be incredulous. There is litterally nothing to suggedt that Drake writes anything... I give him the benefit of the doubt that he writes some things but to indicate as you have that he isnt using ghostwriters? Not even Drake himself has denied that.
 
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