Remember Chris Rock nikkas vs Black people joke

[BelowTheMasonDixon]

You wouldn't have had to make much of a leap to infer what I was getting at but ok, let me rephrase it.

Why do the views of white supremacists matter at all?

Dude is bugging.

 

[Ronnie Lott]

Dude is bugging.

I'm buggin? both of y'all cats have been deflecting, moving goalposts and duckin simple questions

 

[Greenstrings]

Please answer this question first, you keep duckin it. Please respond to this:

I'm not ducking your question. I just happen to think your question is irrelevant.

Well ok, the answer is possibly.

it depends what point that white supremacist is trying to make at that particular moment in time. They're not obliged to deal honestly and white supremacy and white supremacy is not an honest position to hold in the first place. White supremacists have in the past employed divide and rule tactics and still do so today, appearing to favour some types of black people over others based on whatever arbitrary categories they find appealing.

 

[Greenstrings]

Double

 

[BelowTheMasonDixon]

I'm buggin? both of y'all cats have been deflecting, moving goalposts and duckin simple questions

So this joke did damage because, a few white people somewhere said it? That doesn't even make sense.

Maybe I'm looking at the joke as a black man tho. You got black folks and you got ******s, sounds about right. What's the issue?

 

[Greenstrings]

All that being said, why exactly should black people hold the views of white supremacists to any significance?

 

[Ya' Cousin Cleon]

this nikka was just calling people c00ns in the other thread...

but he actually cares what cac devils think of us

 

[Ronnie Lott]

I'm not ducking your question. I just happen to think your question is irrelevant.

Well ok, the answer is possibly.

it depends what point that white supremacist is trying to make. White supremacists have in the past employed divide and rule tactics and still do so today, appearing to favour some types of black people over others based on whatever arbitrary categories they find appealing.

How was my question in anyway irrelevant? it's a very simple question that I asked. It wasn't loaded at all. It doesn't matter if white supremacist favored certain black folks, at the end of the day, they still thought less of them.
They still viewed them as "******s"

 

[Ronnie Lott]

All that being said, why exactly should black people hold the views of white supremacists to any significance?

You should try answering your own question

 

[Ronnie Lott]

So this joke did damage because, a few white people somewhere said it? That doesn't even make sense.

Maybe I'm looking at the joke as a black man tho. You got black folks and you got ******s, sounds about right. What's the issue?

There is absolutely no hope for dudes like you

 

[Ronnie Lott]

So this joke did damage because, a few white people somewhere said it? That doesn't even make sense.

Maybe I'm looking at the joke as a black man tho. You got black folks and you got ******s, sounds about right. What's the issue?

There you go attempting to put words and my mouth and create straw man arguments

 

[BelowTheMasonDixon]

There you go attempting to put words and my mouth and create straw man arguments

You said the joke did damage joke didn't do shyt, but give yall something to bytch about.

 

[BelowTheMasonDixon]

There is absolutely no hope for dudes like you

Because I can differentiate Black people and ******s! We'll call me hopeless then.

 

[Greenstrings]

How was my question in anyway irrelevant? it's a very simple question that I asked. It wasn't loaded at all. It doesn't matter if white supremacist favored certain black folks, at the end of the day, they still thought less of them.
They still viewed them as "******s"

Lets bring this home a lil bit. This thread is about a bit done by Chris Rock in 1996 speaking to an almost exclusively black audience that has mostly resonated with and been dissected by black people in the years after. This is the dynamic I was referring to when I mentioned engaging with blackness. This is us talking to and amongst ourselves about a controversial piece of social observation.

So at what point does it make sense to turn around and say "buh what about the white supremacists and what they think?" Why are viewpoints informed exclusively by irrational hatred relevant? As you say they denigrate black people regardless of anything, so why should that have any bearing on how we look at Rock's joke? Why is it necessary to view ourselves through their eyes?

 

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