i read this whole thread at work today, i couldn't believe that some of u actually think for a second that a human could actually beat any large primate or roo. u gonna arm bar something thats 4-5 times stronger that u? some of u dont even weight a170lbs. u would get murdered
	
		
			
		
		
	
			
			
	
 at trying to submit a gorilla. He would ignore you and finish his meal before tossing you across the field Jazzy Jeff style
 You're underestimating the strength of an adult male breh
		
 
 
 that you think this highly of yourselves 
 




 If i ever said id tap out a gorilla that was a mistake.  A man has to know his limtations.  A chimpanzee though would get humbled because of the intricate usages of leverage found in brazillian Jiujitsu that allow me to use his movement against him, sweeping him into any position i need him to be in, for the choke, friend.