Remember when De La and Tribe both dropped their albums Summer 96 and De La had the far better album

[Frump]

As much as we love Dilla, his influence on Tribe was not what we wanted from them at the time.

Stakes is High, the Dilla track, was harder than anything on Beats Rhymes Life. Where as he gave Tribe the more laid back shyt

Agreed. In hindsight BRL and LM weren’t bad albums but not up to the level of a group that released 3 prior classics.

But if I’m not mistaken Dilla was probably the only reason Tribe even dropped anything after MM because of how bad Tip and Phife relationship was getting

 

[Frump]

I agree Stakes Is High is better than Beats, Rhymes and Life.
BUT De La Soul Is Dead is their best album to me and 3 Feet High, Grind Date and Art Official Intelligence joint are better than Stakes is High. It's dope but for De La it's mid IMO.

Stakes is high is one of my favorite De La albums but the fact you can argue it’s not even one of their top 3 albums shows that they might have the best catalog in group history

 

[Tribal Outkast]

I mean it’s possible to like both

 

[darealvelle]

Im listening to stakes is high right now and its my fav out the first four albums.

 

[nieman]

Stakes is High was surprisingly dope, considering the music landscape had changed like 3x since their previous album. Beats, Rhymes & Life was trash and their hiatus was damn near same time as De La. I may still have Beats Rhymes and Life on cassette.

And Art Official Intelligence was dope as well.

 

[TripleAgent]

Stakes is High was surprisingly dope, considering the music landscape had changed like 3x since their previous album. Beats, Rhymes & Life was trash and their hiatus was damn near same time as De La. I may still have Beats Rhymes and Life on cassette.

And Art Official Intelligence was dope as well.

 

[Yehuda]

I'd say De La's music got better with each release up until Stakes Is High (don't really care for anything they dropped past this album). And honestly Beats, Rhymes and Life is better than people give it credit for but it's not seeing Midnight Marauders.

 

[Greenhornet]

finally a thread I can complain in

I never fukked with Tribe
I had all the De La Cds and Tapes
Pos is in my top 3

I knew a few people who would rock with De La
but 99% of people I knew fukked with Tribe always
its weird now that Dave passed that everyone is trying to pretend like they always held De La in high regard

its even more funny that people are lying and using the streaming shyt as a crutch to pretend they listened alot
all these CDs and Tapes been worn out over here. Im sure most real fans are on this board in general... but people are playing into the shyt crazy

 

[Amo Husserl]

Beats got a neo-soul flair. Something about Dilla's beats during that era is like a continuation of Uptown fusing hip-hop and R&B, Dilla rounded the edges of Teddy and Devante Swing's production and balanced the production. Hip-hop with a distinct R&B feel. Dilla's production probably the turning point between the eras and genre development. '94-'96 got a specific sound, Dilla going on to the Soulquarians make perfect sense hindsight.

The Score was good for hip-hop, Miseducation fit right with neo-soul blowing up at the end of the decade.
Whoever quarterbacked Lauryn's rollout knew what they were doing, she was on the same label as Maxwell.
Urban Hang Suite was recorded '94-95 and dropped in '96, D'Angelo dropped Brown Sugar in '95, Baduizm dropped in '97.
Lauryn probably knew about Maxwell, and saw D'Angelo drop and knew about Dilla.

Stakes is strictly hip-hop, De La never had an R&B flair like Tribe. Stakes is the better album, Beats feel like a watershed moment for Dilla solidifying production blueprints for neo-soul.

 

[nahnah]

Stakes is high is my favourite de la album

 

[Tribal Outkast]

I'd say De La's music got better with each release up until Stakes Is High (don't really care for anything they dropped past this album). And honestly Beats, Rhymes and Life is better than people give it credit for but it's not seeing Midnight Marauders.

Yep. I just think people weren’t quite ready for the Dilla sound yet and add that with Consequence being there. Maybe people would’ve accepted this one and the love movement if they came out a few years later. I’m glad people are finally seeing how dope Stakes is High is.. One of my co-workers is like 29 or 30 and she posted the joint with Common.. I had to give her props for that lol.

 

[nieman]

Yep. I just think people weren’t quite ready for the Dilla sound yet and add that with Consequence being there. Maybe people would’ve accepted this one and the love movement if they came out a few years later. I’m glad people are finally seeing how dope Stakes is High is.. One of my co-workers is like 29 or 30 and she posted the joint with Common.. I had to give her props for that lol.

I liked Consequence on it. He was a breath of fresh air. I just didn't like the album, songs overall. Q-Tip seemed like he wasn't even trying. But it's not as bad as The Love Movement, in which I only ended up consistently listening to the bonus disc. Beats, Rhymes and Life is just a bad album.

 

[mobbinfms]

Stakes is strictly hip-hop,

Nah. They had joints with Zhane and Jazzy Fat Nastees on there.

 

[NormanConnors]

And I remember Dilla having the best shyt on both albums

 

[aceboon]

finally a thread I can complain in

I never fukked with Tribe
I had all the De La Cds and Tapes
Pos is in my top 3

I knew a few people who would rock with De La
but 99% of people I knew fukked with Tribe always
its weird now that Dave passed that everyone is trying to pretend like they always held De La in high regard

its even more funny that people are lying and using the streaming shyt as a crutch to pretend they listened alot
all these CDs and Tapes been worn out over here. Im sure most real fans are on this board in general... but people are playing into the shyt crazy

So now De La didn't have fans and the Dave love is fake because you're little bubble wasn't De La fans, meanwhile in the real world...