Remember when the Coli thought Jabari Parker > Julius Randle?

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@Dwight Howard said Randle would put up 20 and 10 this season (even said he would put up 18 and 12 at the very least, easily too). :mjlol:

This is why nothing y'all Lakers fans say in this thread holds any weight. Just dikkriding for the sake of dikkriding.
 

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@Dwight Howard said Randle would put up 20 and 10 this season (even said he would put up 18 and 12 at the very least, easily too). :mjlol:

This is why nothing y'all Lakers fans say in this thread holds any weight. Just dikkriding for the sake of dikkriding.
my prediction was 18 and 12...any prediction ive made before the season was before I knew Luke would use this "keep everybody fresh" minutes system...if they were averaging starter minutes you could have your way but they arent so...
 

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As far as Russell's potential being a lot higher, I don't see it.I think they're just about equal in potential.

The more I think about it, I can't think of anything Russel does better than Booker.Better at making the fancy pass, maybe.

It's not like Russell's some explosive athlete.Booker might actually edge him out there.

I just don't see the "A lot higher" potential.

Booker is not as good in the post, not as good in pick n roll, doesnt see the floor as good or control the pace. Booker is not better at creating shots for other. Booker is not that much of a better shooter
 

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Booker is the better player right now. Their last matchup was the final nail in the coffin.

That's debatable.

I agree, somewhat. Simply because he is a better playmaker/passer.

:dwillhuh:

He's a better scorer and defender, what are all these other things he's better at besides playmaking/passing?

One game doesnt determine the better player. D lo outplayed steph curry in their last 2 match ups but steph is the better player. That head 2 head is an unfair comparison if u comparing stats, suns lost the game first off so dlo did enough for his team 2 win, d lo outplayed him down the stretch also.

Hes better in the pick n roll and post. Better playmaker for others, i think Booker is better at creating his own shot. Russell has a better feel for the game and showing up in bigger spots, which is probably why he outplayed him down the stretch in the head 2 head
 
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I agree Booker utilizes his strengths and attacks mostly looking to score. But he is not tasked with running a team. He has a ultra green light and plays LOT of minutes. Russell is learning how to play winning basketball and is being held accountable.
It's not like D'Angelo runs the team either. It's a team effort. Partly the reason why the Lakers (at the moment) can still win games when he goes MIA or his shot is off. Whereas it's basically every man for himself in Phoenix and Booker's fighting for touches rather than being able to just blend in.
I have not seen Booker do anything that Russell can't. Booker is not an exceptional athlete (slightly more explosive then Russell). From what I have seen he doesn't have more capability to break down defenses, he is just more aggressive and has a scorer's mentality. How is Booker averaging 20 PPG with a PER under 15?
He's more consistent in his play/aggressiveness/ability to create for himself whereas D'Angelo tends to rely on getting hot, and not generate points evenly throughout the game (which again goes back to the whole team thing). PER is a nonsense stat, it really shouldn't be used as the foundation for anything. I guess it's cool to look at if you wanna see the box score in a per minute whole number, but other than that it's near meaningless.
Neither are good defenders, but I would add the caveat that Russell has a tougher match up every night at PG and still has a better DWS and DBPM. Booker is guarding one of the weakest positions in the league in terms of star power.
Again, if you're not a defensive anchor, DWS and DBPM are near meaningless. I've seen promising things from Booker on defense this season, I can't really say the same for D'Angelo - seems like he's regressed in that area, but it's still early on in the season.
As for whether he is a 2 or a 1: the Lakers are committed to converting him to a 1. Curry, Westbrook, Harden, etc have all showed this is possible. Let the man learn how to do it. The game will slow down for him and his size will give him advantages at the 1.
Curry and Westbrook both looked comfortable playing the 1 by the time they were D'Angelo's age. I'm not saying that there's absolutely no possibility of him becoming a 1, but his game simply isn't built to be a PG. He thrives more off ball, has trouble initiating the offense and breaking down defenses on the regular.
At worst Russell and Booker should be viewed on equal footing. However, at this point Russell's stats are better in nearly ever category while still learning a new position. Yet people are saying Booker is better.
This is why it's hard to judge young players who are in completely different systems this early on in the season. I don't think Booker has separated himself to the point where it's not a conversation just that he's performing better and utilizing his strengths more up to this point.

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One game doesnt determine the better player. D lo outplayed steph curry in their last 2 match ups but steph is the better player. That head 2 head is an unfair comparison if u comparing stats, suns lost the game first off so dlo did enough for his team 2 win, d lo outplayed him down the stretch also.
Of course it doesn't determine it, but Booker had already been playing better this season prior to that game. He's the better player right now.
Hes better in the pick n roll and post. Better playmaker for others, i think Booker is better at creating his own shot. Russell has a better feel for the game and showing up in bigger spots, which is probably why he outplayed him down the stretch in the head 2 head
Can't agree with this at all. Especially how Booker's basically been the Suns' go-to and most reliable player in the clutch and makes things happen when they need to. It's more of a shared experience with Lou Will, Young, D'Angelo and Clarkson. However, comparing Booker and D'Angelo makes a lot more sense than comparing Randle and Jabari.
 
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my prediction was 18 and 12...any prediction ive made before the season was before I knew Luke would use this "keep everybody fresh" minutes system...if they were averaging starter minutes you could have your way but they arent so...
:stopitslime:

He still wouldn't average those #s easily if he played starters minutes. Not to mention once his efficiency drops (which it will) his points per minute will drop also.
 

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Of course it doesn't determine it, but Booker had already been playing better this season prior to that game. He's the better player right now.

Can't agree with this at all. Especially how Booker's basically been the Suns' go-to and most reliable player in the clutch and makes things happen when they need to. It's more of a shared experience with Lou Will, Young, D'Angelo and Clarkson. However, comparing Booker and D'Angelo makes a lot more sense than comparing Randle and Jabari.

D lo is just on a team with more players who likes 2 create their own shots also. If u switched teams d lo would easily be able 2 do what booker does but i don't think booker could do what Russell is being asked 2 do with the lakers. Im a huge booker fan too tho. I love his game, it's a pretty good comparison
 

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:stopitslime:

He still wouldn't average those #s easily if he played starters minutes. Not to mention once his efficiency drops (which it will) his points per minute will drop also.
he's averaging 14.2 and 8.7 in 28mpg, its really not that big of a stretch

he hasnt played more than 32 minutes this year, but in games where he has played 30-32 minutes, he averages 17 and 11 :mjgrin:

check mate.
 
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D lo is just on a team with more players who likes 2 create their own shots also.
:usure:

Bledsoe, Warren and Knight would like to have a few words with you.
If u switched teams d lo would easily be able 2 do what booker does but i don't think booker could do what Russell is being asked 2 do with the lakers. Im a huge booker fan too tho. I love his game, it's a pretty good comparison
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I think you'll find it's more closer to the opposite. In saying that though, Booker does have the advantage of playing more off ball.
 

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Bledsoe, Warren and Knight would like to have a few words with you.

:dahell:

I think you'll find it's more closer to the opposite. In saying that though, Booker does have the advantage of playing more off ball.

Coach not asking booker 2 reign it in and make sure he gets the other players involved tho.
 
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he's averaging 14.2 and 8.7 in 28mpg, its really not that big of a stretch

he hasnt played more than 32 minutes this year, but in games where he has played 30-32 minutes, he averages 17 and 11 :mjgrin:

check mate.
:francis:

If he averaged 32 minutes per game he'd be at 16 ppg and 9.8 rebounds per game (based on his current averages) and that's before we get into his efficiency dropping with the increase of minutes and as the season goes along (he won't be able to keep up this efficiency of 55% on 10 shots all throughout the course of 82 games). Need I remind you he did shoot 43% from the field last season.
 

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Jabari Parker is currently 1/7 and -16. He was minus when he was on the court in the first quarter and the team went on a run and took the lead with him on the bench. He came back on and they immediately gave up and went down big.


Maybe, just maybe, Parker's team would benefit if he WASN'T the second option.:mjgrin:
 
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Jabari Parker is currently 1/7 and -16. He was minus when he was on the court in the first quarter and the team went on a run and took the lead with him on the bench. He came back on and they immediately gave up and went down big.


Maybe, just maybe, Parker's team would benefit if he WASN'T the second option.:mjgrin:
Y'all Lakers fans really getting desperate by using one quarter as evidence :dead:
 

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Y'all Lakers fans really getting desperate by using one quarter as evidence :dead:

You were doing the same thing when we were getting blown out by the Wolves. Instead of using quarters, you were using POSSESSIONS.

"Randle just let (insert player) stroll into the paint..."

How delusional are you that you think we can't remember what happened less than a week ago?

The magnificent Jabari who can hit his head on the rim and score at an amazing and efficient pace has more shots blocked than shots made, has more shots blocked(3) than rebounds(2). How do you not get 1 assist by accident? I said it would take Jabari two games to get Julius' 7 first quarters assists but I underestimated how awful Jabari really is when it comes to play making.

Been a rough 24 hours for you two.
 
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