Remember when the Coli thought Jabari Parker > Julius Randle?

[Dwight Howard]

The Bucks without Middleton have very limited options, they have 3 guys scoring double digits and even Giannis has taken a hit to his playmaking as a result.

If Randle had to score as a 2nd option on that team we'd be looking at some ugly ass numbers.




Nah, it's letting you know without my features you putting up Drag-On numbers.

more efficient scorer?...Julius
better playmaker?....Julius
better defender?...Julius
better rebounder?....Julius

im just stating facts man

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

he doesnt have to shoot as much cause he can actually create for his teammates

Jabari's value on the court is limited to scoring

The problem with this is i) you don't watch the Bucks play because you're simply going off what you see in the box score ii) Jabari is a competent playmaker/passer but he can't display it on a regular basis because Giannis and Delly share the ball-handling duties. Randle wouldn't be able to handle the ball like he does now, if he played in Milwaukee. He'd be asked to be a go-to scorer and that would be an ugly site.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

bottom line, Julius is a more efficient scorer

Don't bother quoting me again if you're only going to post smart dumb shyt.

 

[CantStop]

Fact: Regular stats and advanced stats favor Randle. Stat geek @Gil Scott-Heroin eould spend hours debating last season with everybody and all he would post are numbers and now when it's done to him, it's irrelevant.

 

[Malta]

more efficient scorer?...Julius
better playmaker?....Julius
better defender?...Julius
better rebounder?....Julius

im just stating facts man

I stated a fact, he's a 4th option and you're comparing him to a 2nd, now you trying to move them goalposts to something else.


Better defender? Julius giving up 59.1% at the rim while playing next to Mozgov I noticed you stopped talking about rim protection the 2nd Jabari's numbers were better than Randles

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Fact: Regular stats and advanced stats favor Randle. Stat geek @Gil Scott-Heroin eould spend hours debating last season with everybody and all he would post are numbers and now when it's done to him, it's irrelevant.

Fact: Except @Gil Scott-Heroin wasn't just arguing with #s, he was arguing that Jabari had/has a more important role, a better skillset along with #s that supported this.

Fact: @Gil Scott-Heroin can still argue with regular stats and advanced stats that Jabari is better.

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

Only thing Booker has on Russell is scoring and I wouldn't really say it's some huge gap between the two. Hell, as of now Russell is the one scoring more efficiently and more within the team than Booker.

The Suns don't have a system.It's anarchy/playground ball.

I believe they're last in the league in assist.

Eric Bledsoe & Brandon Knight are terrible ball distributors.

Booker's not getting set u properly because his pg's are selfish/incapable.

He has to create his own offense off the dribble/ISO's

61% of his shots are unassisted.

I mean, If you're not Bron/Steph/Durant, that's asking a lot of a 19/20 yr old



And Earl Watson is shytty......Walton>>>>Watson...it's not even close

 

[CantStop]

Fact: Except @Gil Scott-Heroin wasn't just arguing with #s, he was arguing that Jabari had/has a more important role, a better skillset along with #s that supported this.

Fact: @Gil Scott-Heroin can still argue with regular stats and advanced stats that Jabari is better.

Better skill set? All he does is score inefficiently. He misses more than he makes. . How you fat and can't bully people in the post and stay shooting jumpers. .

 

[Reid2Achieve]

i) It could be argued that D'Angelo has more upside (if only because of his playmaking/passing)
ii) I think Booker is better now simply because he utilizes his strengths on a more consistent basis, can break down defenses more regularly, a bigger threat as a scorer (not because he averages more points) and plays better defense (whereas D'Angelo's defensive awareness and effort can be extremely poor at times). D'Angelo's play is far too erratic where he often goes missing if things aren't going his way. Booker makes things go his way.
iii) He put up 39 points on 29 shots, which I'd say is pretty efficient given the circumstances

As soon as y'all get a competent guard to run the point and move D'Angelo to the 2 spot, only then do I believe that he'll start to look better on a more consistent basis. Simply because he ain't a PG.

I agree Booker utilizes his strengths and attacks mostly looking to score. But he is not tasked with running a team. He has a ultra green light and plays LOT of minutes. Russell is learning how to play winning basketball and is being held accountable.

I have not seen Booker do anything that Russell can't. Booker is not an exceptional athlete (slightly more explosive then Russell). From what I have seen he doesn't have more capability to break down defenses, he is just more aggressive and has a scorer's mentality. How is Booker averaging 20 PPG with a PER under 15?

Neither are good defenders, but I would add the caveat that Russell has a tougher match up every night at PG and still has a better DWS and DBPM. Booker is guarding one of the weakest positions in the league in terms of star power.

As for whether he is a 2 or a 1: the Lakers are committed to converting him to a 1. Curry, Westbrook, Harden, etc have all showed this is possible. Let the man learn how to do it. The game will slow down for him and his size will give him advantages at the 1.

At worst Russell and Booker should be viewed on equal footing. However, at this point Russell's stats are better in nearly ever category while still learning a new position. Yet people are saying Booker is better.

 

[KOBE]

Well I was, because it was in reference to D'Angelo playing more consistently. IMO he'll only start playing more consistently once he isn't running the point.

Russell has been far more consistent than Booker so far. In his last 5 he's only shot under 50% once, which was against the Wolves. Booker can't even stay consistent within the game.

These arguments are poor.

 

[Dwight Howard]

I stated a fact, he's a 4th option and you're comparing him to a 2nd, now you trying to move them goalposts to something else.


Better defender? Julius giving up 59.1% at the rim while playing next to Mozgov I noticed you stopped talking about rim protection the 2nd Jabari's numbers were better than Randles

Jabari is giving up 57% at the rim, the difference is negligible.

Julius is a better perimeter defender and has shown ability to switch PNR reliably, which is an asset in today's league

 

[Malta]

Jabari is giving up 57% at the rim, the difference is negligible.

Oh, but the difference wasn't negligible before when you tried to paint Randle as better even though the gap was even smaller? Oochie Wally or 1 mic

Julius is a better perimeter defender and has shown ability to switch PNR reliably, which is an asset in today's league

Word? The Bucks are a better defensive team and the opposing player is shooting a lower percentage with Jabari defending them. I'd post the stats, but you'll just sidestep them and try to bullshyt your way around them

 

[Rakim Allah]

Well I was, because it was in reference to D'Angelo playing more consistently. IMO he'll only start playing more consistently once he isn't running the point.

do you think Mudiay would start playing more consistently if he wasn't running the point?

 

[Dwight Howard]

Oh, but the difference wasn't negligible before when you tried to paint Randle as better even though the gap was even smaller? Oochie Wally or 1 mic



Word? The Bucks are a better defensive team and the opposing player is shooting a lower percentage with Jabari defending them. I'd post the stats, but you'll just sidestep them and try to bullshyt your way around them

my point is, neither are great defenders but Julius gets the edge due to ability to switch PNR effectively and he forces more turnover



you cant really ask better of your PF. he's had 3 clutch blocks like these this season

 

[Dwight Howard]

do you think Mudiay would start playing more consistently if he wasn't running the point?

Mudiay at SG