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If the entire country was vaccinated, we would be past covid.
Covid would still exist, people would still die from breakthrough cases and there would still be variants. So what number do you guys want to see for (cases/deaths) before you feel safe? And Im genuinely asking the question, not trying to be a smart-ass.
 
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Covid would still exist, people would still die from breakthrough cases and there would still be variants. So what number do you guys want to see for (cases/deaths) before you feel safe? And Im genuinely asking the question, not trying to be a smart-ass.




When it gets to normal flu year level or even under it.
 

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When it gets to normal flu year level or even under it.
I think it would be good if the administration set a goal like this.

Right now Im not sure what the number is before mandates are off the table. Also encouraging a healthier USA that can reduce its high risk demographic (the reversible stuff) instead of saying "keep doing you and we'll get a vaccine for you". There should be nutritionists at all of these pressers trying to change eating and exercise habits. Its been two years of watching a virus rampage through our most vulnerable (and some healthy) and Im not even sure we're a healthier country because the messaging has been so bad. It would have been a great time to reduce peoples reliance on meds while we were in lockdown.
 
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Covid is never ending. It's too profitable and it gives politicians too much power. Here come the covid checkpoints and vaccine passports. Israel is one of the most highly vaccinated countries in the world and yet covid hasn't disappeared from there. In fact, they are authorizing a fourth dose. The techno/medical dictatorship is here.
You right.

The world was a much better place before the practice of science. All you had to do was believe in God and everything would be alright. Word to Rubella, Polio, Measles, Mumps, Smallpox and Diphtheria all being prayed away.

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I think it would be good if the administration set a goal like this.

Right now Im not sure what the number is before mandates are off the table. Also encouraging a healthier USA that can reduce its high risk demographic (the reversible stuff) instead of saying "keep doing you and we'll get a vaccine for you". There should be nutritionists at all of these pressers trying to change eating and exercise habits. Its been two years of watching a virus rampage through our most vulnerable (and some healthy) and Im not even sure we're a healthier country because the messaging has been so bad. It would have been a great time to reduce peoples reliance on meds while we were in lockdown.





What mandates are you referring to?
 

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COVID isn’t going any where any time soon. It’s the new flu, but it isn’t seasonal. People will continue to die from it. Masks are the new normal.

just got my booster, so I am good for another 6 months while still being smart about shyt.
 

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nikkaz prob wear a mask to post on the coli

live your life brehs


These nikkas don’t leave the house
 

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I've made it no secret that I think everybody should be vaccinated. But even if you're vaccinated, you should still be taking every precaution that you possibly can. You can still catch this stuff if you aint careful.

The vaccine gives us added protection that we need but it doesn't make us invincible.
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I think it would be good if the administration set a goal like this.

Right now Im not sure what the number is before mandates are off the table. Also encouraging a healthier USA that can reduce its high risk demographic (the reversible stuff) instead of saying "keep doing you and we'll get a vaccine for you". There should be nutritionists at all of these pressers trying to change eating and exercise habits. Its been two years of watching a virus rampage through our most vulnerable (and some healthy) and Im not even sure we're a healthier country because the messaging has been so bad. It would have been a great time to reduce peoples reliance on meds while we were in lockdown.
Folks in this country have been aware and told of their health problems for decades.

And here's the thing: these people whom it would be directed at already have their walls up because of the perceived freedoms that have been supposedly taken away from them, where asking them to change their diet and exercise habits would only push them further away from complying. Hell, not even literal death could make them throw our their patriotism, do you really think getting them to eat healthier is going to change their stance?

As long as this country is non-secular, things will never change.
 

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Folks in this country have been aware and told of their health problems for decades.

And here's the thing: these people whom it would be directed at already have their walls up because of the perceived freedoms that have been supposedly taken away from them, where asking them to change their diet and exercise habits would only push them further away from complying. Hell, not even literal death could make them throw our their patriotism, do you really think getting them to eat healthier is going to change their stance?

As long as this country is non-secular, things will never change.
You can push a healthier country based on religion, patriotism and science though. Whether it helps during this pandemic, who knows, but for Covid 2030 or Influenza 2040 we might be better off. Not to mention it would immediately help the environment and peoples life in general. I think it would have been a good compliment to the docs that are always on television.

these are months old but...:manny:
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More than 900,000 adult COVID-19 hospitalizations occurred in the United States between the beginning of the pandemic and November 18, 2020. Models estimate that 271,800 (30.2%) of these hospitalizations were attributed to obesity.

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There is no denying that obesity is a driving force between COVID-19-related mortality and other adverse outcomes, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. In fact, it may triple a person's risk of hospitalization.

The report released by the WOF this week found more troubling news about COVID-19 in relation to weight. Analyzing data on obesity from Johns Hopkins University and the WHO Global Health Observatory, 2.2 million of the global 2.5 million COVID-19 deaths reported in February occurred in countries where more than half the population is classified as overweight.

Data from more than 160 countries shows a linear correlation between a nation's COVID mortality and obesity rate, finding that no country with an obesity rate below 40 percent reported high death rates.

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About 78% of people who have been hospitalized, needed a ventilator or died from Covid-19 have been overweight or obese, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said in a new study Monday.


Now when you combine that with people who cant change their situation (people over 65) I think you can account for most of the really bad instances.
And in 22 months, dieticians and physicians could have had a major impact on reducing the risk and improving peoples lives if they shared the stage with the virologists. Remember, they would have been beating the drum the entire time too, from the same platform. Especially in the months before the shot.
 

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So even if the entire country was vaccinated, you guys would still want all the precautions in place because covid still exists?


That's called herd immunity and that would be an entirely different situation then what we're currently in.

And before you respond, read up on how herd immunity reduces community spread and has helped to eridicate other viruses in the past.
 
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