Rep. John Lewis Is Starting a Fight That He Expects the Black Community to Finish

[AlainLocke]

Word. Let the white liberals and white opposing interests fight Trump if that's what they want to do. Don't let them use us to do it. We should be trying to get whatever we can from Trump. And when he's gone, one way or the other, we get whatever we can from whoever's next.

We focus too much on this moral battle against White people and racism and this battle ain't moral...

I don't give a fukk about who is president...

I just want Black people to derive maximum benefit..

 

[ⒶⓁⒾⒶⓈ]

1.)Trump himself said Russia performed the hacks.

really ?? when was this that Trump accused the Russian Govt of hacking so he could win...Please post it?

2.)you don't know how to read. From your own source.

"Political reactionaries are at the right-wing of a political spectrum; yet, reactionary ideologies can be radical, in the sense of political extremism, in service to re-establishing the status quo ante."

Does that describe Lewis?

Its certainly Hillary...She is far more right wing than Trump...If you paid attention to something other than fake news,porn and Trap music you would have noticed more senior republicans openly endorsed Hillary than Trump...wake up son

3.)I'll say it again. Using big text does not make you more correct. It only highlights how wrong you are.

I do that cos you seem to have a short attention span...Perhaps its the drill music...Im pretty sure it kills brain cells

4.)Are you still reading through those 35 pages trying to find your chicken nugget Ivanka Trump 4C proof you used to attempt to discredit something.

Dealt with that in the other Thread, Stay focused...see what i mean about attention span??

5.)Don't use semantic arguments Hack is the de facto term being used. We can use Phishing for podesta, but it still is an illegal method used to gain information and in this case dessiminated and used to discredit or sway an election.

Yeah and NONE of that has been proven...its always unverified allegations from shady sources

6.)it's foot on neck season for you.

More like "foot in mouth" season for you

 

[Llcoolbay]

do you want money or you want an apology from white folks?

I want them to treat us like human being but I guess that too much of a request from your kind.

Negged Cac

 

[Micky Mikey]

Its amazing how easy it is for us to be used as political pawns. This lady is talking hot facts. This is ultimately a fight between two power structures and we should trust the word of neither. Its sickening to see so many of our people perpetuating this Russian boogeyman narrative being pushed by war hawks in DC. If we dug into what's going on at a deeper level , we'd see that we (the United States) is the aggressor. We are the one's encroaching on Russia (and China in the pacific) . If Russia and China decided to build gargantuan military installations on the Canadian and Mexican border, we'd be freaking out. This is essentially what is going on but the American public is too ignorant and blinded to see the world through spectacles outside the empire. The hawkish foreign policy we've adopted will ultimately lead to another World War and perhaps eventual nuclear fallout if we are not careful.

 

[Pressure]

really ?? when was this that Trump accused the Russian Govt of hacking so he could win...Please post it?


More like "foot in mouth" season for you

When asked during his press conference about who was responsible for the hacks Trump said and I am quoting him exactly here, "I think it was Russia."

Whether you want to believe their intentions were to harm the Clinton campaign or not that'is on you, but most people accept the leaked emails as being a critical part of the campaign that ultimately led to Hillary Clinton losing to Trump.

 

[Red Shield]

At the end of the day, this a moot point.Whether blacks are the face ,the rear or not involved in the opposition to Trump, Trump's policies will negatively effect the black community. His cabinet appointments clearly illustrate that. The smartest thing blacks in America can do as a group, is to start building relationships with foreign governments and start creating a contingency plan to leave the U.S.

Pretty much.

 

[Pressure]

Its amazing how easy it is for us to be used as political pawns. This lady is talking hot facts. This is ultimately a fight between two power structures and we should trust the word of neither. Its sickening to see so many of our people perpetuating this Russian boogeyman narrative being pushed by war hawks in DC. If we dug into what's going on at a deeper level , we'd see that we (the United States) is the aggressor. We are the one's encroaching on Russia (and China in the pacific) . If Russia and China decided to build gargantuan military installations on the Canadian and Mexican border, we'd be freaking out. This is essentially what is going on but the American public is too ignorant and blinded to see the world through spectacles outside the empire. The hawkish foreign policy we've adopted will ultimately lead to another World War and perhaps eventual nuclear fallout if we are not careful.

You seem to be a proponent of respecting boundaries yet summarily dismiss Russian and Chinese aggression throughout the world.

Despite what you might hope there is no scenario where the US, China, and Russia all agree to leave each other and the rest of the world be.

Since that's the case the argument of we should just leave them alone and they will leave us alone should be bushed.

Regarding your other point, our actions don't excuse the actions of other countries against us. That's not how you determine rightness and wrongness.

Sure our foreign policy may be hypocritical, but it's ultimately aimed at maintaining our best interest in how we view the world.

 

[Micky Mikey]

You seem to be a proponent of respecting boundaries yet summarily dismiss Russian and Chinese aggression throughout the world.

Despite what you might hope there is no scenario where the US, China, and Russia all agree to leave each other and the rest of the world be.

Since that's the case the argument of we should just leave them alone and they will leave us along should be bushed.

Regarding your other point, our actions don't excuse the actions of other countries against us. That's not how you determine rightness and wrongness.

Sure our foreign policy may be hypocritical, but it's ultimately aimed at maintaining our best interest in how we view the world.

Russia and China are both countries that have horrible human rights records. And yes, both countries have shown aggression to their neighbors. However, their aggression is miniscule in comparison to American aggression.I understand the ultimate goal is to retain our status as the prime hegemonic world power, however I do not believe doing this calls for boxing Russia and China in a corner. It is policy that is ultimately unsustainable and will ultimately lead to war.

 

[Pressure]

Russia and China are both countries that have horrible human rights records. And yes, both countries have shown aggression to their neighbors. However, their aggression pales in comparison to American aggression.I understand the ultimate goal is to retain our status as the prime hegemonic world power, however I do not believe doing this calls for boxing Russia and China in a corner. It is policy that is ultimately unsustainable and will ultimately lead to war.

That's fair.

Though some will argue we are only doing so at the request of our allies to ensure their freedoms.

Tough spot. Though I doubt the US or China really want to go to war with each other.

 

[acri1]

Ive been saying for years illegal immigration and bilingualism is bad for black people, that black people need more capitalism and that the public school system should be destroyed and replaced by charters and vouchers, so I look forward to trump implementing those issues

The trump administration represents a tremendous opportunity for black educators and entrepreneurs to build new innovative schools for black kids, we should take advantage of it

I think in drug law enforcement and in law enforcement in general trumps administration will be bad for black people that is why black people need to focus on local politics and ownership of real estate and business

So going back to the video, it's not about being of trump it's understanding that our strategy is not the same as the Democratic Party, we need a guerilla strategy against the trump administration not a full frontal assault on trump

If his silly "wall" gets built, it won't be Mexico that pays for it. It'll be working class and middle class Americans paying higher taxes so it's highly unlikely to benefit black folks. And the idea that charter schools will benefit anything more than a small percentage of black people is silly. Not everybody has parents that are going to go out of their way to find good charter schools for their kids, so decimating public schools is going to screw over most black kids.

Word. Let the white liberals and white opposing interests fight Trump if that's what they want to do. Don't let them use us to do it. We should be trying to get whatever we can from Trump. And when he's gone, one way or the other, we get whatever we can from whoever's next.

We're not getting anything from Trump other than being screwed.

Dude literally ran and got elected on anti-minority sentiment so it's foolish to think anything he does will be anything other than negative for the black community or minorities in general. This is a man who is staffing his cabinet with open white nationalists. The idea that we'll get anything other than being fukked over by a Trump adminstration is silly and not grounded in reality.

 

[ⒶⓁⒾⒶⓈ]

When asked during his press conference about who was responsible for the hacks Trump said and I am quoting him exactly here, "I think it was Russia."

Whether you want to believe their intentions were to harm the Clinton campaign or not that'is on you, but most people accept the leaked emails as being a critical part of the campaign that ultimately led to Hillary Clinton losing to Trump.

You cant be serous bruh..what is wrong with you???

You actually blame the emails rather than the content of the emails.....Thats like blaming the news for breaking a story on corruption rather than the actual corruption...or blaming a witness for testifying in court instead of the murderer

Lets start from first principles here...here is a short list of the infractions that were in the emails...try to follow the logic

*Hillary did NOT have to use her bootleg server.Had she used the Govt provided one she would have never set off the investigation.
*She did NOT have to delete the emails...she knew beforehand her work had to be turned in for archiving at the end of the job but she chose to break the rules anyway.
*Podesta did not have to cook up shady deals with journalists and spirit cooks
*The DNC should NOT have rigged the primaries against Bernie
*Donna Brazille did NOT have to tip the scales and give Hillary the questions to the debates
*DWS did not have to rig the nomination process to favor Hillary
*Hillarys campaign should NOT have sent agitators to disrupt Trump and Bernies rallies

and so on

Had none of these things happened and the emails turned out to be just regular day to day communication then you would have a point..but the emails showed a pattern of corruption that was beyond what the independent voters could tolerate..and they were right

 

[Pressure]

You cant be serous bruh..what is wrong with you???

You actually blame the emails rather than the content of the emails.....Thats like blaming the news for breaking a story on corruption rather than the actual corruption...or blaming a witness for testifying in court instead of the murderer

Lets start from first principles here...here is a short list of the infractions that were in the emails...try to follow the logic

*Hillary did NOT have to use her bootleg server.Had she used the Govt provided one she would have never set off the investigation.
*She did NOT have to delete the emails...she knew beforehand her work had to be turned in for archiving at the end of the job but she chose to break the rules anyway.
*Podesta did not have to cook up shady deals with journalists and spirit cooks
*The DNC should NOT have rigged the primaries against Bernie
*Donna Brazille did NOT have to tip the scales and give Hillary the questions to the debates
*DWS did not have to rig the nomination process to favor Hillary
*Hillarys campaign should NOT have sent agitators to disrupt Trump and Bernies rallies

and so on

Had none of these things happened and the emails turned out to be just regular day to day communication then you would have a point..but the emails showed a pattern of corruption that was beyond what the independent voters could tolerate..and they were right

So you're saying you agree that the emails played a role. I'm glad we agree.

 

[Pressure]

Also, Clinton's email server wasn't where the leaks came from.

The email server probe can as a result. Of the Benghazi witch hunt from congress.

But the fact that you are conflating them all really shows how much of an affect it had on the election results.

That said, I wonder how many people actually read through the emails or just took the word of others.

[Edited to be less condescending]

 

[satam55]

@CharlieManson Look at this shyt going on to take down Trump & black liberals are out here foolishly trying to be in the frontlines against Trump.

 

[AlainLocke]

@CharlieManson Look at this shyt going on to take down Trump & black liberals are out here foolishly trying to be in the frontlines against Trump.

nikkas don't get it...

nikkas wanna be on some Superman shyt, like we supposed to be involved in anything regarding racism...

Trump ain't even did shyt yet...and nikkas talking about stopping Trump...

Stop Trump from what?

And why we gonna stand up against Trump when White folks already on it...and can do it better than we can do it...


What we gonna do to Trump besides say Trump is bad and try to convince some "good White people" to stop him...


When we gonna learn that we do not have the political power in this country to execute something as powerful as an impeachment without enlisting the help of a White person...

But we supposed to join that shyt...because Trump might do something...and put an even bigger target on our backs...