Reparation spreadsheet. :wow:

[5010]

The cost.

First thing that comes out of 's mouth is that he wants a piece of the reparations. I thought it was in jest until he cited how the common white man has not benefited from the system because they lack the financial literacy to invest in their retirement plans and have student loan debt.


Second one goes straight to " But what about the women... I mean I'm just telling you what THEY'RE gonna say. "

81% disapproval rate from whites.

Yeah, this is exactly why it's never gonna happen.

 

[saturn7]

And that paragraph explains and takes into account exactly what the breh is saying that you quoted.

Those are the options which beg for the conversation to be grounded in common sense. Upon further discussion, we would quickly realize that reparations coming in a check or not including a dedicated commitment to educating the large amount of African Americans on financial literacy would be doomed before it starts.

The whole goal would be to make sure the country DOES NOT get a get out of jail free card by being able to issue a check and feeling like they have washed their hands of it all.

It would be a perverse future that ends many people squandering a payout much like the average lottery winner or similar to athletes.

At the risk of sounding cliche...we don't want the U.S to give us a bucket of fish and call it a day. We NEED the U.S to give us the institutional and educational resources to be able to create a legacy of fisherman.

So, if it's not about pumping vast amounts into restructuring education and local institutions, reparations is DOA.

Dude said no one worked out the mechanics or reparations, implying that we are just asking for money and nothing else. I showed him information showing he was incorrect and different plans are being put together.

 

[Pimp]

First thing that comes out of 's mouth is that he wants a piece of the reparations. I thought it was in jest until he cited how the common white man has not benefited from the system because they lack the financial literacy to invest in their retirement plans and have student loan debt.


Second one goes straight to " But what about the women... I mean I'm just telling you what THEY'RE gonna say. "

81% disapproval rate from whites.

Yeah, this is exactly why it's never gonna happen.

I actually think it might happen for the simple fact they can say WE PAID YOU nikkaZ! I think they will have a plan to get all the money back too..

Someone said "if the world started over today and everyone went back to 0 dollars all the money in the world would return to the same people"

 

[Robbie3000]

With reparations I can build my own house, pay off my car note, fix my credit score, and take care of my family for a lifetime.

And since I'm not money hungry, 20K a month would be fine with me.

So you’ll SETTLE for 20K a month huh?

Y’all can’t be serious.

 

[KingJay]

Assuming 20k went to each Japanese individual and not like 20k per household, doing some math that means 80,000 Japanese people got payed. Idk how many ADOS there are, but let's assume there's like 40mil of us? There's 500x more ADOS than there were Japanese who got reparations, which means to pay each of us 20k it'd cost 500x more than what the Japanese total sum was. 500x1.6bil = 800billion dollars given to us.

It might be interesting for us to think about this then, rather than in terms of individual pay, in terms of is 800billion sufficient, or should the price tag go into the trillions? Everything I see seems to think the price tag should be up in the trillions.

Low estimates come out to around 14 trillion roughly from what I've seen, a lot in the 14-17trillion range. For those still concerned about what they get as an individual, that lower 14trillion price tag has us each getting $350k

Lowest estimate I've seen is 6trillion, even that is ~$150k each

Seems like 20k each or 800billion is a gross underpay, which it should be considering that what the Japanese went through pales in comparison to ADOS.

My next question though is how will we account for inflation? Sending 14trillion out into the public hands sounds like it'd cause some inflation no? What would have to be payed then in reality to account for the inflationary change that would result?

 

[newworldafro]

fukk cash reparations.

let me live tax free for a decade or two

You mean 200 years at the max....

You know how many white filks would be claiming they black ... even Afro Latinos would be claiming "mi black americano papi".

 

[Jean Jacket]

No tax. Interest free business loans with collateral. No college tuition. 3 free stipends for tickets to travel to Africa: Survey, family travel, and final move. Elections for police officers in Black jurisdictions. Free cash subsidies for Black farmers and a parcel of land devoted. Diplomatic immunity, and/ or overhaul of justice system and jury selection.

 

[Ya' Cousin Cleon]

I'm saying that got reparations in name only and they still living in squalor.

that's because they continue to get undermined by the cacs at large through regulations and other handed tactics.

them lil bullshyt checks they get, $45-$100 a month ain't building nor can the repay the debt that is own to them

it's a slap in the face.

So what are you trying to say, black folks don’t deserve reparations? Or black folks will stay in poverty even with it?

 

[feelosofer]

No tax. Interest free business loans with collateral. No college tuition. 3 free stipends for tickets to travel to Africa: Survey, family travel, and final move. Elections for police officers in Black jurisdictions. Free cash subsidies for Black farmers and a parcel of land devoted. Diplomatic immunity, and/ or overhaul of justice system and jury selection.

This

 

[Guile]

A check is not the answer. And if you're willing to give away the last bit of political leverage we have for 20k...you're a fool and part of the problem

What political leverage would be giving up? We would still make up 13% of the population and would be key to a lot of southern elections.

 

[Ghost Utmost]

Why do people keep saying this like we don't have folks already establishing a criteria and proposals of the forms Reparations must come in?

The Economics of Reparations

(PDF) The Economics of Reparations

The 3rd paragraph on pg 336 breaks down the forms Reparations can come in.

If you're reading about the subject then obviously you're not the people who don't take time to process

Every time I point out where some of us are not being studious about this subject, people react as if I am against Reparations.

I'm descendant from slaves on my mothers and father's side.

My moms moms people

My moms pops people

My pops moms people

And

My pops pops people.

Every angle.

I have been considering this subject before the internet and before some of you came into existence

And we actually read books when I was young, so I'm not working from something I heard on YouTube.

Just want to clarify. I want my chips. They should have already paid out what they promised to pay out and they should definitely come to a conclusion, finally, and cut the checks.

I just know its not gonna be some miraculous figure that's going to leave every Black person super wealthy.

If the idea is that Reparations will be the turning point and all will be well afterward, that's not the case.

5 years from now you prolly be exactly back where you're at now with a much nicer car and a few of the really nice outfits still in rotation.

But at least racism will be over!

Yeah. The fascist white people will finally let go of their fascist beliefs once we all get paid.

Or the exact opposite could happen and KKK type white people will be more pissed off. And at that time they will wear Blackface proudly and use the n word (hard r) on broadcast TV. And when we complain they will remind us that slavery is finally over cause we all have nice cars now.

 

[Vandelay]

Should be a $10k tax credit 20 years.

$20K is too small. $200k you can build generational wealth with it.

That way that can't really complain about not having the money to pay for it. It's paid already and then just given back. Tie it to tax returns so you can't say people that shouldn't have it don't get it.

 

[DPresidential]

Should be a $10k tax credit 20 years.

$20K is too small. $200k you can build generational wealth with it.

That way that can't really complain about not having the money to pay for it. It's paid already and then just given back. Tie it to tax returns so you can't say people that shouldn't have it don't get it.

Can I ask you a serious question?

Getting the U.S to "pay" reparations would be an attempt to put said recipients in a better situation, right?

From my own research(in my first post above), I estimated that there could be upwards of 37mill + eligible candidates for reparations.

Do you realize that a payout of 200k per individual would total somewhere around... well, my calculator gave this=
200,000 x 37,000,000 = 7.4E12.

I take that to mean 74 w/ 12 zeroes behind it. 9 zeroes would be billion. 12 is trillions.

What would 74 trillion do to the U.S economy and would that "result" harm Black Americans more than help?

 

[Vandelay]

Can I ask you a serious question?

Getting the U.S to "pay" reparations would be an attempt to put said recipients in a better situation, right?

From my own research(in my first post above), I estimated that there could be upwards of 37mill + eligible candidates for reparations.

Do you realize that a payout of 200k per individual would total somewhere around... well, my calculator gave this=
200,000 x 37,000,000 = 7.4E12.

I take that to mean 74 w/ 12 zeroes behind it. 9 zeroes would be billion. 12 is trillions.

What would 74 trillion do to the U.S economy and would that "result" harm Black Americans more than help?

I thought I explained that it should be over the course of 20 years.

 

[Tommy Knocks]

No tax. Interest free business loans with collateral. No college tuition. 3 free stipends for tickets to travel to Africa: Survey, family travel, and final move. Elections for police officers in Black jurisdictions. Free cash subsidies for Black farmers and a parcel of land devoted. Diplomatic immunity, and/ or overhaul of justice system and jury selection.

Now this is the kinda shyt i like to see.

this was well thought out