Researchers "Nearly 65,000 pregnancies from rape have occurred in states with abortion bans"

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For those thinking the number is high not at all. Alot of women around you get raped but alot don't say anything.

dudes don't want to believe it. most of guys who posted on the askreddit thread never had their crime reported.

Rapists Explain Themselves on Reddit, and We Should Listen​


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PublishedJuly 27, 2012

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Rapists and would-be rapists are opening up about “the other side of the story” — theirs — on a massive Reddit thread about the motivations behind sexual assault. The conversations range from exasperating to disturbing, and the whole of it may make you want to roll your eyes in disgust. But you shouldn’t dismiss the thread as mere rape apologia. There’s plenty of that, sure, but there’s also a lot more to it.

Yesterday, a Redditor solicited stories of sexual assault from assailants. “Reddit’s had a few threads about sexual assault victims, but are there any redditors from the other side of the story?” he asked. “What were your motivations? Do you regret it?”

Given the disturbingly high amount of men’s rights activists and rape apologist Redditors — a recent Reddit thread counted the many, many ways the site is “anti-women” — it’s easy to see why some would be skeptical about the possibility for productive discussion. “In other words: Yeah, yeah, enough about rape victims, let’s hear from the REAL VICTIMS here: the POOR MENZ,” shyt Reddit Says lamented. A commenter added, “The thought that my rapist is PROBABLY a redditor and could very well be getting patted on the back RIGHT NOW by HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE for relating how rough raping me was for him is making me literally nauseous.”

But it’s impossible to talk about the reasons people rape without involving rapists in the discussion. Rapists aren’t hiding in the bushes: around two-thirds of rapes are committed by someone known to the victim, and 73 percent of sexual assaults are perpetrated by a non-stranger. It’s a mistake to think we’re justifying rapists’ actions by listening to their stories. Some of them are tough to read, but their brutal honesty illustrates how a lack of communication and education perpetuates rape culture. Ignoring or dismissing these men (and women) out of hand may be an effective coping strategy for a given individual, but not for society. It gets us nowhere.

So why’d they do it? What were they thinking? Here are some of the reasons why rapists said they raped or almost raped from the original thread.

(What they perceive as) mixed messages:


She ran to my bed and didn’t want me to touch her. I didn’t understand what had happened. This hypersexual person who had offered to give me head suddenly didn’t want to touch me.

Or:

I was a freshman and hooking up with this girl who got naked in bed with me, then said no. I think she just wanted to do oral. I was extremely horny and already close to doing it, so I ignored her and did it. She realized what was happening and tried to clamp her legs shut, but it was too late and I was much stronger than her.

Or:

Sue had always been quite flirty, she was a cop’s daughter and I feel that lead to her being a bit rebellious. I remember instances from years ago (possibly 8th grade or freshman year) where she would make jokes about different bras or thongs she was wearing, and was always freely talking about sexual desires and experiences. She just had this unusually sexual way of carrying herself, I don’t know if anyone knows what I’m talking about, but she’d kind of leave her mouth hanging open/bend over quite a bit/almost unreal-porn star like.

Remember though, this was all happening in my high school library during study hall. Not a whole let ever happened more than some dry groping. I wanted to take it further though, she had really begun to turn me on...

Or:

I can’t remember how it happened, but me and the girl (she was maybe 17) ended up play wrestling with me pinning her down. We were all laughing, but we when made eye contact...it was “that” look we exchanged. The..”I’d fukk you” look.

Now, I remember exactly what I was thinking at the time. This girl gave me “the look” earlier, she invited me into her bed. What teenage girl would pass up the oppertunity to be with a 22 year old guy? She MUST want it. I tried again, and slid my hands over her body.

Peer Pressure:

I got peer pressured in to hooking up with this girl. I kept saying I didn’t want to and my friends kept saying I had to lose my virginity. They say this for about a week and finally new years come so I figured might as well. We are both completely wasted and go to a room. I was to drunk to get it up so I fingered her and ate her out but she wasn’t really into it. So I stopped and then threw up all over her and I passed out. I guess she ran out and told them I raped her. She never said stop or anything but I could see how she could have froze up in fear. I don’t doubt she feels molested and I feel like an awful person but it wasn’t rape as SnugglesWithRuggles pointed out it was rape.

Women are objects for the taking:

Ended up happening again after a party. She was a good friend. I was drunk and super horny. I looked at her and knew I could never be with her. She had already hooked up with my friend. It was that feeling of never being able to do something, or have something. I looked at her and just saw something I would regret not trying for. So I thought if I could feel her I would know what it was to be with her. I grabbed her boob, over the shirt. I touched her lip and she moved her head. I stop dead thinking I woke her up, but she relaxed again. I started going upstairs but felt a sudden urge to lift her skirt. I ran my hand across her ass and between her legs. I was so drunk I turned on the light to get a better look, then quickly realized that it would wake her up and turned the light off.

Biology (The “I can’t help my dikk!” argument):

Most girls don’t really understand how horny guys are, how much stronger guys are, how guys will rationalize what they do. I see feminists and women on the Internet saying that no means no and women should be able to get as drunk as they want and not be sexually assaulted, and I couldn’t agree me. But the reality of the situation is that women have to be careful because guys are one way when they’re hanging out and another way when they’re horny or worse drunk and horny. That doesn’t make what happened okay, but it is what it is.

Bad influences:

I was an extremely isolated youth who came from a broken home. My escape was the internet. At about sixteen I was exposed to alot of PUA material, which (not having a father or mother really around) shaped my life up until I was about 20. Most of the material was very objectifying and sexually aggressive towards women.

Multiple men said that they didn’t end up going as far as they had intended once they actually looked the woman they were with in the face:

I’m a good man. I have a wife and a couple of kids now and I’m a good father and husband. I’m a pretty moral guy. But I think the thing that has always stuck with me...is how close I came to actually doing it. If I hadn’t looked up at her face and seen what she was feeling, I might have continued. In my mind, at the time, she wanted it. I can remember staring at the ceiling while on the couch thinking “in a couple of minutes she’s going to come out here and get on top of me.”

Or:

...It was then I looked at her face. She was petrified. I at that point pulled myself together, rolled off her and apologized. My hormones were RAGING. I asked her why she didn’t want to. I told her what I thought above. She started to cry.

That’s arguably the most disturbing takeaway from the thread: these guys are so disconnected from reality that they don’t even feel the need to look women in the face to be sure they’re interested.

It’s very clear that many of these people didn’t feel like what they were doing was wrong because they didn’t (and/or still don’t) think of themselves as rapists. Rapists are the scary strangers hiding in the bushes. Rapists don’t feel remorse. Rapists prey on pure girls, not sluts who show cleavage and want to fool around. Some even say that straight up; “I didn’t want to be the kind of guy who pressured girls, so I said it was fine [when she asked if she could stop performing oral sex],” says a man who had literally just pressured a girl who had “always been quite flirty” to go down on him.

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dudes don't want to believe it. most of guys who posted on the askreddit thread never had their crime reported.


Rapists Explain Themselves on Reddit, and We Should Listen​


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Katie J.M. Baker

PublishedJuly 27, 2012


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Rapists and would-be rapists are opening up about “the other side of the story” — theirs — on a massive Reddit thread about the motivations behind sexual assault. The conversations range from exasperating to disturbing, and the whole of it may make you want to roll your eyes in disgust. But you shouldn’t dismiss the thread as mere rape apologia. There’s plenty of that, sure, but there’s also a lot more to it.

Yesterday, a Redditor solicited stories of sexual assault from assailants. “Reddit’s had a few threads about sexual assault victims, but are there any redditors from the other side of the story?” he asked. “What were your motivations? Do you regret it?”

Given the disturbingly high amount of men’s rights activists and rape apologist Redditors — a recent Reddit thread counted the many, many ways the site is “anti-women” — it’s easy to see why some would be skeptical about the possibility for productive discussion. “In other words: Yeah, yeah, enough about rape victims, let’s hear from the REAL VICTIMS here: the POOR MENZ,” shyt Reddit Says lamented. A commenter added, “The thought that my rapist is PROBABLY a redditor and could very well be getting patted on the back RIGHT NOW by HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE for relating how rough raping me was for him is making me literally nauseous.”

But it’s impossible to talk about the reasons people rape without involving rapists in the discussion. Rapists aren’t hiding in the bushes: around two-thirds of rapes are committed by someone known to the victim, and 73 percent of sexual assaults are perpetrated by a non-stranger. It’s a mistake to think we’re justifying rapists’ actions by listening to their stories. Some of them are tough to read, but their brutal honesty illustrates how a lack of communication and education perpetuates rape culture. Ignoring or dismissing these men (and women) out of hand may be an effective coping strategy for a given individual, but not for society. It gets us nowhere.

So why’d they do it? What were they thinking? Here are some of the reasons why rapists said they raped or almost raped from the original thread.

(What they perceive as) mixed messages:



Or:



Or:



Or:



Peer Pressure:



Women are objects for the taking:



Biology (The “I can’t help my dikk!” argument):



Bad influences:




Multiple men said that they didn’t end up going as far as they had intended once they actually looked the woman they were with in the face:



Or:



That’s arguably the most disturbing takeaway from the thread: these guys are so disconnected from reality that they don’t even feel the need to look women in the face to be sure they’re interested.

It’s very clear that many of these people didn’t feel like what they were doing was wrong because they didn’t (and/or still don’t) think of themselves as rapists. Rapists are the scary strangers hiding in the bushes. Rapists don’t feel remorse. Rapists prey on pure girls, not sluts who show cleavage and want to fool around. Some even say that straight up; “I didn’t want to be the kind of guy who pressured girls, so I said it was fine [when she asked if she could stop performing oral sex],” says a man who had literally just pressured a girl who had “always been quite flirty” to go down on him.

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FBI and NSA need to track em down
 

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:picard:520,000 rapes in 14 states in 4 to 18 months? Am I reading this right?
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if these numbers were inflated. I know some are real, but we have seen people will go to the length of saying that they were raped for other reasons for secondary gain.
You really underestimate the depravity out here. Almost every childhood female friend of mine has been sexually abused.
 

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:duck: to the 10,000th power

:mjlol: @ believing there's been 65k rapes since abortion bans in general in America let alone those that led to pregnancies.
 

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nah nah......blame dumbass republicants claiming to be christians. separation of church and state exists for a reason, but these idiots see "In God We Trust" on money and use it as justification to oppress ppl
Uh naw it’s fukk Christianity. Islam too. But I’m not judging the people who follow it and I know of course there are good and bad people.
 

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Nearly 70% of adults in the United States say that abortion should be legal if pregnancy is the result of rape, according to a survey from Pew Research Center.
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dudes don't want to believe it. most of guys who posted on the askreddit thread never had their crime reported.


Rapists Explain Themselves on Reddit, and We Should Listen​


By

Katie J.M. Baker

PublishedJuly 27, 2012


Comments (1685)

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Rapists and would-be rapists are opening up about “the other side of the story” — theirs — on a massive Reddit thread about the motivations behind sexual assault. The conversations range from exasperating to disturbing, and the whole of it may make you want to roll your eyes in disgust. But you shouldn’t dismiss the thread as mere rape apologia. There’s plenty of that, sure, but there’s also a lot more to it.

Yesterday, a Redditor solicited stories of sexual assault from assailants. “Reddit’s had a few threads about sexual assault victims, but are there any redditors from the other side of the story?” he asked. “What were your motivations? Do you regret it?”

Given the disturbingly high amount of men’s rights activists and rape apologist Redditors — a recent Reddit thread counted the many, many ways the site is “anti-women” — it’s easy to see why some would be skeptical about the possibility for productive discussion. “In other words: Yeah, yeah, enough about rape victims, let’s hear from the REAL VICTIMS here: the POOR MENZ,” shyt Reddit Says lamented. A commenter added, “The thought that my rapist is PROBABLY a redditor and could very well be getting patted on the back RIGHT NOW by HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE for relating how rough raping me was for him is making me literally nauseous.”

But it’s impossible to talk about the reasons people rape without involving rapists in the discussion. Rapists aren’t hiding in the bushes: around two-thirds of rapes are committed by someone known to the victim, and 73 percent of sexual assaults are perpetrated by a non-stranger. It’s a mistake to think we’re justifying rapists’ actions by listening to their stories. Some of them are tough to read, but their brutal honesty illustrates how a lack of communication and education perpetuates rape culture. Ignoring or dismissing these men (and women) out of hand may be an effective coping strategy for a given individual, but not for society. It gets us nowhere.

So why’d they do it? What were they thinking? Here are some of the reasons why rapists said they raped or almost raped from the original thread.

(What they perceive as) mixed messages:



Or:



Or:



Or:



Peer Pressure:



Women are objects for the taking:



Biology (The “I can’t help my dikk!” argument):



Bad influences:




Multiple men said that they didn’t end up going as far as they had intended once they actually looked the woman they were with in the face:



Or:



That’s arguably the most disturbing takeaway from the thread: these guys are so disconnected from reality that they don’t even feel the need to look women in the face to be sure they’re interested.

It’s very clear that many of these people didn’t feel like what they were doing was wrong because they didn’t (and/or still don’t) think of themselves as rapists. Rapists are the scary strangers hiding in the bushes. Rapists don’t feel remorse. Rapists prey on pure girls, not sluts who show cleavage and want to fool around. Some even say that straight up; “I didn’t want to be the kind of guy who pressured girls, so I said it was fine [when she asked if she could stop performing oral sex],” says a man who had literally just pressured a girl who had “always been quite flirty” to go down on him.

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