Responding to the Nigerians in Diaspora and In Nigeria Are "Weak/Docile" Narrative

[BlackJesus]

People that say Nigerians or any other oppressed people are weak are just being stupid. All minds cannot grasp all complexity. No different than "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" zombie arguments.

I don't really like the implications of what you're saying about white Americans being survivors or fighters though. How? And how does it relate to ADOS? White folks weren't the one fukking up the cities after the death of MLK, leading to the Civil Rights Act.

It reads like you're trying to knock down or humble ADOS. There's no shame in admitting that they, with Haitians and many more, are some of the finest examples of Black resilience and fighting spirit in history. That doesn't make Nigerians any weaker. Anybody peddling that is being stupid and not worthy of addressing.

Haitians were on another level but yeah. ADOS deserves some respect

 

[BlackJesus]

To add on a point, the military in the United States does not regularly get deployed to murder American protesters.

In Nigeria this is common. I did not say that white people put significant footwork in to create civil rights. What I said was having white people on the ground and the culture of protesting being accepted prevents the military from just shooting everyone down one by one.

In 2020, this is what is happening to people who date to fight the government in Nigeria. So the risk vs reward of activism in the US and Nigeria are totally different.

Does not take away from the achievements of black Americans but refutes the assumptions that Nigerians should just "fight".

 

[Ugo Ogugwa]

Serious question.

Is there a possible end to the inter-tribal conflicts in Nigeria?

Is it possible to end gang violence? The root cause of those conflicts are scarcity. The root cause of scarcity is white supremacy.

Even the so called Diaspora wars are because of socioeconomic issues that are rooted in white supremacy.

So yea it will end when everyone has a fair opportunity to pursue happiness.

 

[xoxodede]

To add on a point, the military in the United States does not regularly get deployed to murder American protesters.

In Nigeria this is common. I did not say that white people put significant footwork in to create civil rights. What I said was having white people on the ground and the culture of protesting being accepted prevents the military from just shooting everyone down one by one.

In 2020, this is what is happening to people who date to fight the government in Nigeria. So the risk vs reward of activism in the US and Nigeria are totally different.

Does not take away from the achievements of black Americans but refutes the assumptions that Nigerians should just "fight".

I get what you are trying to say.

But, I don't think comparison with the U.S. or any non-African country is the way to get your message across.

I say that based on the different dynamics, history and other ethnic factors that may tie in.

Most people see every Nigerian (and any other African) as just Black due to race - but most don't understand the tribal/ethnic and class dynamics that come into play. We have no clue how that works and what would feel like or be like. So, we need to keep our opinions to ourselves.

But, the U.S. military has always never been a real ally to Black Americans - even when we are fighting besides them. I am saying this as a Black American whose male ancestors fought in every war in the history of the U.S ---- and long history of military service.

The U.S. Military has always been used to go at Black Americans. They get called in when we protest - non-violent or violent.

They BOMBED a ADOS community - more than once. Whites didn't protest -- nor where they on the ground. They are sent in anytime they even feel like we are about to act up. In addition, to testing shyt in our communities.

The day Philadelphia bombed its own people
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2018/09/28/feature/they-was-killing-black-people/

The Culture of protesting is not accepted -- and we see that even today. But, we still do it - cause it's something that has been passed down for generations by our ancestors. Not to say Nigerians should or shouldn't do it --only yall know or will have to figure out what works for yall. Applying U.S. based activism tactics may not be solution for non-U.S. countries.

They ONLY accept it once they co-opt the narrative and get an inside to deter progress for specifically Black Americans. And they don't shoot everyone down cause Whites have their ass out there to front like they care about stopping White Supremacy/Racism -- when they don't.

The ROOT of this back and forth -- and dumb narratives being thrown out at people -- is people speaking down and judging each other. It needs to stop on both ends.

For instance, I see a lot of your post speaking about how much you make or have -- and calling others poor - and other ish just out-the-blue. Which is cringe.

But, at the same time you don't know what they have or their story -- or if you even make more than them. Making assumptions or going at people based off stereotypes is the same thing you don't want others to do you or anyone you know.

Let's stop this -- or make an attempt too.

 

[Ducktales]

We can all have superiority complexes. Nationalism is natural. But the difference is you come to OUR country , not the reverse. So you can’t expect us not to be pissed off at constant criticism when your people come to the land our ancestors built... and not for you to disrespect.


I’m sorry but I don’t know any Americans moving to Nigeria or Jamaica, London, or Brazil and talking shyt to the black people there about what they are doing wrong and why they think they have it harder or are better. We can compare stories about who got it harder all day. Which is pointless and a waste of time. But to say black Americans are not the Most disrespected black people In world is ridiculous. Only because it is the land we built that makes people come here feeling like this is a better life than the place they CHOSE to leave.