Reza Aslan rebuts Bill Maher about Islam

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It IS evil, because the only sensible way modern religious people exist is by NOT taking their religion seriously.

Thats the problem here.

ISIS is really what happens when you take Islam seriously. You shouldn't be surprised.

You're asking religious people to not take their religion seriously???

Evil is a term that suggest that there is Gods and Devils. ISIS is a creation of U.S. Policy, not Islam. I wouldn't expect you to be knowledgeable on foreign policy, let alone religion.

Suggest less than 1% of a Billion and a half followers is representative of the whole religion, brehs.
 

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Evil is a term that suggest that there is Gods and Devils. ISIS is a creation of U.S. Policy, not Islam. I wouldn't expect you to be knowledgeable on foreign policy, let alone religion.

Suggest less than 1% of a Billion and a half followers is representative of the whole religion, brehs.
I use "Evil" in the sense that its a sort of ultimate negativity that is neither beneficial or productive

ISIS is not a creation of US foreign policy. Lets drop this. Because what they believe matters.

This is the problem here.

What does the first letter of ISIS stand for? :sas1:
 

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Of course it is. It's outrageous to argue otherwise. Aslan's current counter argument to his own statement happens to be that there are secular Muslim countries and secular Muslims but he fails to understand what secular means it seems.

I like Aslan, this is not a knock on him and what he does. I don't think he's a shill or a troll as others have said. I just think he's blinded by religion somewhat.

I wouldn't say blinded by religion. He's protecting his culture from xenophobic comments and western imperialism.
 
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I use "Evil" in the sense that its a sort of ultimate negativity that is neither beneficial or productive

ISIS is not a creation of US foreign policy. Lets drop this. Because what they believe matters.

This is the problem here.

What does the first letter of ISIS stand for? :sas1:

So you aren't atheist. ISIS is a creation of foreign policy and it's been documented as such. Especially since U.S. and all it's allies are funding them including Israel. Now ISIS is just as it has been said since 1990 on C-SPAN.

 

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So you aren't atheist. ISIS is a creation of foreign policy and it's been documented as such. Especially since U.S. and all it's allies are funding them including Israel. Now ISIS is just as it has been said since 1990 on C-SPAN.


Are you seriously swapping letters now?

Eat a dikk dumbass.
 

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At 9:30, Reza Aslan is quoted as saying "Religion is, by definition, interpretation, and by definition, all interpretations are valid."
So, Reza Aslan believes ISIS is a perfectly valid interpretation of Islam. :sas1:

The actual quote is, "Religion is by definition interpretation, and by definition all interpretations are valid. However some are more reasonable than others, and it is reason not imagination that determines what is probable." He's making the very simple point that one is free to interpret any text however one chooses, but some interpretations are obviously more reasonable than others. I'm not familiar enough with his book to fully critique it but I know that statement. If that is the thrust of the criticism of him in here then you're all being intellectually dishonest.
 

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I wouldn't say blinded by religion. He's protecting his culture from xenophobic comments and western imperialism.

Blinded by religion is the correct assertion in my opinion. Your second sentence had nothing to do with my statement.

As I said a few pages ago, Aslan absolutely has the right to defend the assertion by Maher and others that all Muslims are like ISIS. That's blatantly false. But his counterargument is pointing to secular societies as if the concept of secularism isn't the separation of state and laws from faith.
 

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The actual quote is, "Religion is by definition interpretation, and by definition all interpretations are valid. However some are more reasonable than others, and it is reason not imagination that determines what is probable." but some interpretations are obviously more reasonable than others.

Who decides?
 
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