Reza Aslan rebuts Bill Maher about Islam

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I use "Evil" in the sense that its a sort of ultimate negativity that is neither beneficial or productive

ISIS is not a creation of US foreign policy. Lets drop this. Because what they believe matters.

This is the problem here.

What does the first letter of ISIS stand for? :sas1:

I'm agreeing with 75% of what you say but let's not act like the US foreign policy didn't play a part in creating the environment for ISIS to take control. Al Qaeda was never in Iraq before the US invaded them. There was no link found. ISIS in it's current form today would not have existed if it wasn't for the disastrous Iraq War.
 

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The actual quote is, "Religion is by definition interpretation, and by definition all interpretations are valid. However some are more reasonable than others, and it is reason not imagination that determines what is probable." He's making the very simple point that one is free to interpret any text however one chooses, but some interpretations are obviously more reasonable than others. I'm not familiar enough with his book to fully critique it but I know that statement. If that is the thrust of the criticism of him in here then you're all being intellectually dishonest.
He appeals to reason and then bases the crux of his argument on the idea that facts are irrelevant when discussing religion because of this concept of "sacred time" that he made up, brother. This isn't even my characterization of his argument. He flatly states that facts aren't important. This is not reasonable, dude.
 

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I'm agreeing with 75% of what you say but let's not act like the US foreign policy didn't play a part in creating the environment for ISIS to take control. Al Qaeda was never in Iraq before the US invaded them. There was no link found. ISIS in it's current form today would not have existed if it wasn't for the disastrous Iraq War.
I never doubt that.

...but if they want to call themselves an Islamic organization inspired by Islam...Lets not jump to intellectualize that away. They can speak for themselves.
 
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2007 Award Winning Journalist( a real one) named Seymor Hersh wrote a piece in the New Yorker about U.S. Administration and allies was using tactics such as using AL-Qeada friendly extremists to create a sectarian war and fight in Syria, Lebanon and Iraq the biggest supporters of Iran to help cripple Iran.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2007/03/05/the-redirection

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Blinded by religion is the correct assertion in my opinion. Your second sentence had nothing to do with my statement.

As I said a few pages ago, Aslan absolutely has the right to defend the assertion by Maher and others that all Muslims are like ISIS. That's blatantly false. But his counterargument is pointing to secular societies as if the concept of secularism isn't the separation of state and laws from faith.

Not exactly sure what you took from my statement. I was clearly talking only about his motivation. It would seem to me that Aslan is defensive about more than just his religion. That was my point.
 

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Ben Affleck is nuts :mjlol: holy shyt he is so uninformed:flabbynsick:, but yet so confident:smugbiden: and so emotional:ohlawd: and filled with strawman:noah:
he reminds me as of that "girl you wish you had not started a conversation at a party" SNL skit:mjlol:That was a great clip :lolbron:
 
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