Richard Sherman on Matthew Stafford’s HOF case

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I'm pretty sure most QBs in the HOF has won either a MVP or SB MVP


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He played in Detroit tho, don’t act like he was playing with all pro talent.. Only cat he really had was Megatron

vs the bears and Minnesota, multiple times a year for a ~decade…foh with this shyt, he wasn’t playing all pro competition either.

Meanwhile rodgers absolutely thrived and dominated vs the same comp easily.
 

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He played in Detroit tho, don’t act like he was playing with all pro talent.. Only cat he really had was Megatron

Not to mention, he played 6 seasons with Megatron, 4 of them were with Jim Schwartz as HC (he never sniffed another head coaching job) and then Megatron retired after 2 seasons with Jim Caldwell. The Lions still made the playoffs twice and had a winning record under Caldwell. Then the fired him and hired Matt Patricia for 3 seasons. That's the entirety of Stafford's time with the lions.
 

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Going back 20 years, there are probably 4 HOF quarterbacks.

Brady, Peyton, Rodgers, and Brees.
(Favre, too. Though I'd consider him more of a 90s QB)

That's it. But I'm more conservative when it comes to HOF than most.
If you want to argue for Roethlisberger, fine. But the guy won 2 super bowls early in his career and did nothing for the last decade of it. He wasn't ever a transcendent QB. But fine. It's not a hill I'm willing to die on.

Matt Stafford has a career 86-95-1 record. He's won a championship, sure. But he doesn't stand out in a way that the HOF needs to include him to tell story of the NFL during the past decade. Nothing is lost if he isn't memorialized.
 

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Not to mention, he played 6 seasons with Megatron, 4 of them were with Jim Schwartz as HC (he never sniffed another head coaching job) and then Megatron retired after 2 seasons with Jim Caldwell. The Lions still made the playoffs twice and had a winning record under Caldwell. Then the fired him and hired Matt Patricia for 3 seasons. That's the entirety of Stafford's time with the lions.

HoF players elevate rosters…this dude never elevated any team, not even the rams any of the top ~15 qbs would’ve won with this team.

You dudes hopping on a bandwagon and did not watch stafford play, I watched him and like I stated before…no one ever looked at any team Matthew stafford was on and thought “damn Matt is about to kill us :sadcam:“ never once.

Even in the sb he was far from the best performance on the team.

People making these arguments couldn’t have watched him play. Good qbs on bad teams still show out, he actively lost Detroit hella games so cut blaming the talent. Most of his stats came from light defenses in garbage time with him trying to come back because they were out of the game 90% of the time, with most of that due to his inconsistent play….
 

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HoF players elevate rosters…this dude never elevated any team, not even the rams any of the top ~15 qbs would’ve won with this team.

You dudes hopping on a bandwagon and did not watch stafford play, I watched him and like I stated before…no one ever looked at any team Matthew stafford was on and thought “damn Matt is about to kill us :sadcam:“ never once.

Even in the sb he was far from the best performance on the team.

People making these arguments couldn’t have watched him play. Good qbs on bad teams still show out, he actively lost Detroit hella games so cut blaming the talent. Most of his stats came from light defenses in garbage time with him trying to come back because they were out of the game 90% of the time, with most of that due to his inconsistent play….


This is why this forum is hilarious….:russ::russ::russ:

we went from bad trade, we won’t win shyt with Staff to anybody can win with this super team.

these dudes are just emotional haters. I’m loving it :myman:
 
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