nonsensical approach to what producer is by you
This is to anybody in this thread..
You mean to tell me that you all NEVER thought of a beat or some type of rhythm in your head that you thought would be dope, but knew you couldnt use a program or instrument to create it?? or heard a fire song to sample but wouldnt have no idea how to upload it into Pro Tools?
Lets say you didnt and you found a "so-called REAL Producer" to do it for you. He sells it and its a million seller.
Are you asking for production credit or you letting homie that you found have the credit and pay?
Ill wait..
It used to be called a coproducer in hip hop pillar based circles of business in the music industry.
Like for instance my debut record and the remix.
I brought the sample and hook idea and rhymes to palermo [RIP]originally. Then palermo went and produced the beat.
To later...
On the remix.
STRO, Bonaface of bon n nip [RIP].
stro decided he could interpolate the original sample in remixing the original song idea.
In hiphop circles if you did not actually create the chops, programming to full arrangement. You did not produce the beat. Legally you can and should be awarded the coproduction of the record. If you supplied the idea for the hook or the sonic landscape.
for publishing credit on the production side.
Which should take place for a solo emcee. Who really does what a solo emcee is supposed to do.
If you never really originally propose the sample or hook as an emcee.
Then you should not get any production credit or co-producer credit.
You really not supposed to have any input culturally.
as an emcee in the workflow of the production. As that is reserved for the dj pillar. As an emcee it is stepping over bounds into the dj pillar. If you are an emcee in the new school way of thought.
You are supposed to supply the lyrics.
Then the producer is supposed to handle the job in full of producing the record. Down to hiring the engineer who is going to mix the record. If you mix the record on your own that is not apart of production in the new school way of thought. That is simply an engineering task you can take upon yourself. Yet you would be better served to hire an engineer to record mix and master the track.
Also since rap is fully misappropriated down to the term.
It has allowed rnb sellout culture thief ideals.
to revert it back to ol school way of thought.
mca way meets sugarhill based tricknology.
where rnb culture thief meets art house based semantics.
Continue to plague and cause systemic erosion.
to the skillset of the new school way of thought businesses.
Where that erosion and misappropriation.
will soon plague commerce in any array of capitalism and business. To any and every sector of life as well.
If not properly kept in check to the mores and norms of the new school way of thought.
Which is why the communications act and prison industrial economy have ruined American life beyond repair. By misappropriation of the business of rap. After the death of the ol school way of thought. To rejuvenate the ol school way of thought. Plus cause death to the mores and norms of the new school way of thought.
To the point even the term ol school and new school have no meaning any more in general.
Art Barr