Rick Rubin Producing skills

[Formerly known as...]

And this is rather ignorant because you have absolutely no proof that this is being done. All you're doing is projecting. And I know you're wrong, because he has produced for singers where he was the sole producer.

Rick Rubin was a consultant forJay's MCHG, but he has NO credits on that album. Nelly Furtado consulted him for Loose, but again, he has NO credits.

Place is the most ignorant when it comes to the creation of music that I've ever encountered.

Right ok....Timbaland laced Nelly Furtado and Jay with those albums, created pretty much every beat. Rick came in for publicity listened to MCHG and said 'Sounds good' (probably) and that's it. He DOES NOT deserve production credit for the work Timbaland did. You think the album sounds vastly different without his consultancy skills? MCHG is Jay's worse album also.

 

[JustCKing]

Right ok....Timbaland laced Nelly Furtado and Jay with those albums, created pretty much every beat. Rick came in for publicity listened to MCHG and said 'Sounds good' (probably) and that's it. He DOES NOT deserve production credit for the work Timbaland did. You think the album sounds vastly different without his consultancy skills? MCHG is Jay's worse album also.

Did I say he deserved credit?

My point was if he was just some dude who came in and took credit for finished products, his name would've been all over those albums. It wasn't and deservedly so because he did not contribute anything other than his opinion.

 

[Mowgli]

Probably an old drug dealer that just became a legit character. Ruben is into witchcraft as well

 

[Awesome Wells]

First and foremost, Rick Rubin is one of music's best producers of all-time.

Secondly, anyone who believes that Rick doesn't know how to work a drum machine or a mixing board, is a casual that needs to do their homework. He's always been able to do those things, since day one, and also produce in the same capacity as a composer too, when he's not actually touching the equipment. He can not only make beats, but he also uses music theory in instructing instrumentalists on how to play and when. He can hop from genre to genre and make classic shyt, overseeing the production of projects until they're at a point where he's brought out the best in either the band, singer or the MC. That's what an actual producer is. It's not just about making beats all day. Dude has been at the helm of classic albums from everyone from Slayer and Red Hot Chili Peppers, all the way down to guys like Beasties, T La Rock, Run DMC, LL, Johnny Cash, Tom Petty, Adele, System of a Down, Weezer, Jay-Z, Audioslave, Black Sabbath, Linkin Park, and the list goes on and on.

Some artists won't even hit the studio until Rick's schedule frees up, so he can produce their album. Legends wait for him to have time to work them! So anyone's that's actually made music, would be able to see how high level Rick's talent has always been. You don’t have a career like his, if you haven't mastered the art of production from every angle. LL said it best, "No one knows more about music or their way around the studio, than Rick does". Dude is phenomenal and that's why he's one of the GOAT's.

 

[Formerly known as...]

Ok, he just has a different approach to many.

Velvet Revolver (no idea who they are):
Kushner’s description of the way Rubin works lines up with everyone else’s description of the way Rubin works; he’s basically a guru who pops in every now and then and gives the band notes, and people listen to him because, well, he’s produced a ton of hit records. This particular approach to producing seems to be a “love it or hate it” kinda thing; we’ve heard different artists, sometimes within the same band, praise and condemn Rubin’s approach.

“I just don’t think we were ready to make a record [when we made Libertad]. When we did that one, we started with Rick Rubin. He has a very laid back way of making records.

“You just write a bunch of shyt, you record it, he listens to it and he goes, ‘Oh, that thing’s good – why don’t you work on that some more?’

Slipknot:
“There are some people who would love for me to toe the party line, which is basically, ‘Working with Rick Rubin was a very enriching experience,'” he said. “Let me give you the fukking truth of it: Rick Rubin showed up for 45 minutes a week. Rick Rubin would then, during that 45 minutes, lay on a couch and have a mic brought in next to [his] face so he wouldn’t have to move.”

'The Rick Rubin of today is a thin, thin, thin shadow of the Rick Rubin that he was. He is overrated, he is overpaid, and I will never work with him again as long as I fukking live.'


I would love to hear a Jay Z album produced entirely by Rick Rubin now, just to see what comes out of the sessions. No other producer just Rick and Jay in the studio.

 

[get these nets]

No, the artists he's worked with have made comments about his
hands off approach to producing. Dude didn't pull it out of thin air.

Jan 18, 2023

Rick Rubin admits he doesn't know how to use a mixing desk: "I have no technical ability, and I know nothing about music"

Best of 2023: The super-producer reveals his creative process in a new interview with Anderson Cooper for 60 Minutes

www.musicradar.com

 

[zayk35]

I just read through this entire thread and boy does the coli love trying to discredit legendary producers. First Dre now Rick Rubin. these guys are who they are for a reason.

 

[Turbulent]

Unfortunately, you haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about.
Your opinion isn't an informed one.
I give you five piece band with 20 songs that they've written.
You're the producer. What are you gonna do?

I'm not who you quoted but i would listen to the 20 song or ideas. Try to find commin themes out of them both melodically, lyrically and "groove" wise. I would talk to them, see what they want to say and compare notes. Select a few songs and use them as the north star. All this before even touching an instrument or soundboard. see whatever else fits and then rework them around the previous songs selected. I personally would focus more on grooves and tempo to try to cover different bases while still achieving something cohesive. Once we have the skeleton of an album, if we need more material, at least we have an idea of where we are going.

As far as composition or writing, it depends on the band. Some are better at performing, some are better at composing, some are both. So i might give some of my ideas for compositions/riffs, or i might just let them do their thing and just give feedback. Case by case.

Same thing with the recording, same with the mixing. If you asked me to make a beat, compose a song, record, arrange and mix it, i could probably come up with something, but I'm far from the best in any of these roles. But if i oversee the whole process and coordinate everything while other people play these roles, i guess I'm producing.

I can't find it now but i was gonna post the doc on Steely Dan - Aja. These guys had a vision and they knew EXACTLY what they wanted it to sound like.

 

[chunky_mcdaniels]

Ask Jazzy Jay?



Stole his soul and his pockets and kicked out the picture (Russell just as guilty.)

 

[get these nets]

Ask Jazzy Jay?



Stole his soul and his pockets and kicked out the picture (Russell just as guilty.)

If you had it, would you flaunt it?

 

[Bugzbunny129]

Theres levels to all things

Rick is a super duper LEGENDARY producer in all genres.

He works with artists who play/write their own music so the process is conpletely diff in hip hop.

Some of yall give credit to the beatmaker for everything but a producer does more. If you get a plain beat and you come up with the flows, hooks, song idea, etc; you really produced that song; the beat maker gets coproduction.


Rick does a lot of seeing what the artist throws at the wall and retweaks it to what he thinks that artist is supposed to sound by telling them what he liked and not likes. He doesnt have to micomanage the process to be a noteworthy producer.

He gave johnny cash the song by trent reznor, to create hurt. Johnny cash played the gtr and sung it. Rick prolly made notes on how his voice should sound in mixing and prolly picked takes. Thats why it says produced by rick rubin and johnny cash. Technically johnny did everything else; but ricks guidance produced the song

 

[Rev Leon Lonnie Love]

This cac is never liked a single song by hin.

 

[Formerly known as...]

Dude is overrated. Hairy, sofa sitting, head nodding 'super producer'.

 

[THE 101]

 

[Double Burger With Cheese]

It’s really simple. If people gotta question what you do, you don’t really do shyt.