Ricky Smiley says “get the hoodlums out” of our community

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Yes there isn't only 1 option but what if a person doesn't even know all the options available to him? What if he doesn't have the support needed to be successful. It's easy as fukk to tell a kid who has no parents and no food in the house to take another option other than robbing for his meal. shyt a kid will just get labeled a lost cause just for being dirty and from the hood

It's disingenuous, in my opinion, to suggest that everyone committing crimes is doing so out of pure desperation. I won't try to refute your point much aside from that. Addressing the conditions that lead to that is important and should be a key priority.

There are plenty who commit crimes out of greed/laziness. Some get trapped in the fast money lifestyle and find themselves unable to escape the lifestyle, not due to a lack of choice but a perceived disadvantage of going legit.

A good comparison would be the number of strippers who COULD make other choices, but don't like the requirements to do so. There are people who are being trafficked and exploited and forced into sex work (the kids you describe that are desperate) but that's very different than those who CHOOSE that lifestyle because it's 'easy' and the money is fast (think career criminals and D boys) . The latter has a choice
 

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It's interesting that the pendulum on this subject is starting to swing a different direction. At a certain point these neighborhoods are going to have to demand more from those committing these crimes and turning the community into a war zone. We need a reset button pronto. Folks waiting on the government to do something about, or expecting the police to do their job, etc., is just foolish. You want something handled, sometimes you have to do it yourself. Folks don't want to confront their cousins, or their sons, or the uncles. Women aren't off the hook either as they keep having babies with these fools, and too many of the kids they raise continue the cycle. We need a national reset.
Yep, some of these nikkas are raising their kids to be just like them on that street shyt. Not to have a better life.

 
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I won't disagree because I watched superfly or one of those other 70's movies and dudes was on the same talking points then we talking about now.

It's never going to change. America is a lost cause for black people. All we can do is our best and try to get out education/money up and leave this place.
 

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My best friend in high school got shot over a bytch on Memorial Drive. The nikka that shot him lived in Southland (which are 5 bedroom all brick homes) and my boy lived in Hidden Hills (which was nice back then). Let these dudes cook. Most of them nikka nerds that dont do shyt but live vicariously through rappers and Tariq.
So many of these murders be over petty bullshyt and a lot of it does happen between middle class brehs and brehettes. It's just like some in our community don't respect black life. They'd be timid to shoot a cac but will tell you they pistol is a nazi, cause it hate nikkas.
 

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I understand what you mean.

But she didn't get shot today. Smiley sat around and thought, and then went online, y'know? This was not in that moment. I understand doing shyt in the moment. I can be hotheaded too - but the rhetoric he's espousing shouldn't be the norm.

fukk rhetoric that shyt need to be said. We can fight two wars right now, we aint got shyt else to do. Every single community or ethnic group has trash ass individuals in it that do nothing but hinder, destroy and kill. That includes our community. The difference is that we are hesitate to call it what it is, eradicate, excommunicate and eliminate over a fear of how it will look, selling out, snitching, whatever. That was programmed into us by white supremacy. Alot of shyt was programmed into us. Just like it was programmed and needs to be deprogrammed. You cant say fukk 12, we dont need police, and then refuse to police your own community. Not everyone is righteous, not everyone has good intentions. I used to be more of a idealist. All black men are brothers and shyt. Thats true for most. Its the small percentage that is too comfortable wreaking havoc and destruction. I agree fukk 12, we dont need them in our hoods, but lets not act like we can just let them same destructive nikkas go by the honor system and think they aint about to the work of the devil.
 

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I don't have to determine you can see in the environment

strong men don't live in such environments

the streets are for cowards, weak nikkaz, arabs run the hood and other foreigners nikkaz just occupying space

You don't want to acknowledge, because you're a natural born coward, you don't want to acknowledge the reality because you will either have to do something about it or not, you don't want to do anything about because that will require effort which is what you are scared of, so you take the coward away out and refuse to acknowledge

don't talk to me, white supremacy already beat you, you are a white supremacist, you said out your own mouth white supremacy is reason for why nikkaz do everything they do and why they in their condition and they can't do anything about

this is what you believe, you are a white supremacist, like I said you are defeated broken shell of a man

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Wow my nikka

You are so full of false machismo and hatred you think you know what you're talking about

You wouldn't know a strong man if one punched you in the head :dead:
 

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I was thinking about this as well. I never once heard "this damn white supremacy need to stop" :damn: at any of the funerals or wakes I've attended for gun violence victims. When my boy Fredo got his shyt sprayed over a broad he was smashing, I didn't think "wait til we get these reparations one day" People have to stop making excuses for this fukk shyt. We will not see white supremacy end in our lifetimes. White people are the damn majority in this country and they insecure as it is about hispanics threatening that. I hope that when I have a black son, he'll be loved and respected by other black kids in his community.
I think people make excuses for this fukk shyt because a lot of us aren't too removed from shytting on your own close family or friend. Who wants to call their own family or friends a fukk up? If it were 3/4 generations of black people overall doing financially doing better I think you'd see more people become "c00ns" in the eyes of some with their talking points. Hell if you take online emotions out of it look at most of the people folks on here think are "c00ns" are people that have made money. When you make money a lot of people start to wonder why can't you esp if they came from a similar starting point as you. I'll personally take out those in entertainment because that's just talent most don't have but doing it in IT, real estate, health care, other regular jobs I don't necessarily see where those people are wrong at.
 

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Yup my thing is why can't the problem be attacked from both ends. Stay on white people's necks to try to eliminate the root causes of the crime and economic disparities but also try to clean up our own neighborhoods as well. We stay with excuses but we really should be trying to rid our neighborhoods of crime and not enabling that shyt.
Cause nikkas will pontificate in the regular on every subject how we can attack A and attack B until it deals with things within our community then it’s “we gotta take care of this before we can 100% address this cause that will alleviate some of the issues within the community”. shyt ain’t that simple but nikkas want to believe so. I’m tired of trying. Ignorance is embraced and there’s too much of an infatuation with “the struggle” and “the bag”. Y’all can fight the good fight. I’m done
 

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So many of these murders be over petty bullshyt and a lot of it does happen between middle class brehs and brehettes. It's just like some in our community don't respect black life. They'd be timid to shoot a cac but will tell you they pistol is a nazi, cause it hate nikkas.
I disagree with this online they won't shoot a cac logic. They won't shoot a cac most times because guess what they aren't around them to shoot them. If y'all can show me this evidence folks would shoot a black person and wouldn't a white person in the same situation in any real numbers you'd have a point.
 

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how do you solve black crime without stopping the causes of black crime?
That is a valid question, but consider this. Imagine your house catches on fire due to faulty wiring. What will you do first: put out the fire (problem), or call an electician (cause)?
We know that white supremacy and systematic racism are real, and must be destroyed; but it wasn't ws that killed those 2 Black children over the weekend. That was us. That was self hate. We need fix the wiring, but first we need to put out the fire.
Unfortunately, I don't have the answers on how to fix the problem. We've had the FOI in our communities. We've had the Original and New Black Panther Parties. We've had church groups & groups like 100 Black Men & the Peaceaholics. We've had marches, protests, concerts, songs, and vigils. Maybe NFAC membership can grow, and they can have a positive effect, but none of those groups' efforts seems to work for long.
I don't want racist white cops in our communities, but we need to figure out some way to police our own neighborhoods and remove anybody who would willingly harm, violate, or murder other Black people.
 

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You had guidance and somebody putting good shyt in your head. You're leaving that out.

But a lot of kids got a mama and daddy deep in the streets filling they head with their beliefs.

There are tons of little girls who were molested and raising a baby they don't even know how to raise.

Unless you're talking about giving every single poor black child some good role models and real help then we gotta blame society.

You're expecting people to just will power themselves out of a bad situation. Some nikkas don't even know that it is bad.

Listen

My BROTHER

with the same parents same hood same era same everything

Got caught up in the bullshyt. The only difference was I chose one path and he chose another
 

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I don't have to determine you can see in the environment

strong men don't live in such environments

the streets are for cowards, weak nikkaz, arabs run the hood and other foreigners nikkaz just occupying space

You don't want to acknowledge, because you're a natural born coward, you don't want to acknowledge the reality because you will either have to do something about it or not, you don't want to do anything about because that will require effort which is what you are scared of, so you take the coward away out and refuse to acknowledge

don't talk to me, white supremacy already beat you, you are a white supremacist, you said out your own mouth white supremacy is reason for why nikkaz do everything they do and why they in their condition and they can't do anything about

this is what you believe, you are a white supremacist, like I said you are defeated broken shell of a man

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Anyone remember the Detroit 300? It was a group of black men that decided to start policing the neighborhood, but it got shutdown because someone was unhappy with some of their methods. Imagine if it were allowed to continue? Maybe you would have had a New York 300, or a Chicago 300. We're not allowed to police our own communities. Women complain that we're not doing anything to protect our community, and when we do it, they shut it down.
 
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I don't blame him and I agree...enough of the coddling/defending. These individuals who commit heinous ignorant acts of crimes endangering black ppl should be delt with...when children and innocent bystanders are getting caught up in the crossfire it's time to put your foot down.

Some of you guys gotta stop coddling these individuals who engage in crime while causing innocent people to wind up on the sidewalk waiting for the ambulance to come their bodies up.

The community is somewhat broken. The individuals who commit these crimes and random acts of violence seem to be protected and revered while the bystander just gets the ole “shyt happens” mentality that sweeps through TLR at times.

SMH.
 
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