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Nikka pleaseWho is voting for Bosh?
Miami would be a better team with Ibaka.
Spo would have Ibaka playing like a shooting guard to open the lane for Bron 
Nikka pleaseWho is voting for Bosh?
Miami would be a better team with Ibaka.
Spo would have Ibaka playing like a shooting guard to open the lane for Bron 


Because Bosh defers to LeBron and Wade too much in Spo's system. When one of them is out, he's putting up 20+ a night with ease. We saw what happened when Ibaka had to be the second option in last year's playoffs.![]()
Nikka pleaseSpo would have Ibaka playing like a shooting guard to open the lane for Bron
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Yeah, he's way too accommodating, because when either Wade/LeBron are out (especially Bron) he steps up and starts looking like the best PF in the game. He was on some other shyt against Portland last season, when Bron was out - with that buzzer beater three + 37 points.I can respect a good post like that
On Bosh and not going hard anymore - he obviously isn't feeling its rewarding anymore. Either on his own sidelines, by his own standards, by the coach, etc. Dude's like fukk it. He's never going to get his props and he knows it.
Can you just imagine all the 'Bosh puts up empty stats', 'Bosh doesn't play defense', 'Bosh ain't shyt, let's see him put these numbers up on a contender' posts.Love/Bosh is whole other discussion though.![]()

Right now id take Ibaka over Bosh....

Bosh's defense is being drastically underrated in here.
, and it's for the exact reasons already stated...post back surgery, howard has lost the quickness and mobility that he had early in his career...and being an elite man post defender is a bit overrated in today's game just because of how the game is played and the lack of big time post scoring bigs...bosh is pretty clearly better in a one-to-one comparison to ibaka still...he's a better rim protector, but that's bout it...he'll prolly keep improving and bosh has plateaued thoughHe's already made it known he doesn't want to play in the post or the paint period and prefers being a jump shooter/3 point shooter.
he doesn't wanna primarily play in the paint day to day cause that's a grind on his body. That post had nothing to do with the ''bosh vs. ibaka'' question. it was the ''lebron changed his game'' post.So it's either bang in the paint or shoot 3s no such thing as a midrangehe doesn't wanna primarily play in the paint day to day cause that's a grind on his body.
And when has serge ever banged?
That post had nothing to do with the ''bosh vs. ibaka'' question. it was the ''lebron changed his game'' post.
Yes. And Bosh prefers for him to kick it out when he's open at 3 or mid range. The way Miami runs their offense it makes no sense for Bosh to be in the post. Not that I agree with it, but that's how they did it.Does Bron not need space to do his drive and kick thing? He gets no plays called for him and he has to go somewhere further and further out.
Said this in another thread...dude's the single best big pick and roll defender in the entire league...he's a below average man post defender, but then you consider the fact that are only like 3 or 4 true offensive posts threats at the position in the league and the preeminent point of attack in today's game..and it more than evens...dude is no minor part of what made part of what made MIA's defense great the last couple years (before falling to sh!t, relatively speaking, this season...and not cause of bosh)...his advanced defensive numbers are better than dwight's, and it's for the exact reasons already stated...post back surgery, howard has lost the quickness and mobility that he had early in his career...and being an elite man post defender is a bit overrated in today's game just because of how the game is played and the lack of big time post scoring bigs...bosh is pretty clearly better in a one-to-one comparison to ibaka still...he's a better rim protector, but that's bout it...he'll prolly keep improving and bosh has plateaued though