aixenv
Lakers World Order
you just solidified your position as either a teenager or a clown
either way, after that quoted statement, im leaving this back and forth debate with you because you just went into "WTF is he smokin' realm"
rings and legacy aside who would you start a franchise with. jordan or lebron
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you just solidified your position as either a teenager or a clown
either way, after that quoted statement, im leaving this back and forth debate with you because you just went into "WTF is he smokin' realm"
nikkas was ready to write dem same 3 franchise players off each series after da Knicks dis year. fukk is you talmbout breh?
Cause bosh was hurt, the only reason the Pacers were I the series was because of his absence. The pacers and Boston lose in 5 if he's 100%.
Them teams had no shot against this stacked heat squad
you just solidified your position as either a teenager or a clown
either way, after that quoted statement, im leaving this back and forth debate with you because you just went into "WTF is he smokin' realm"
can't debate any of my points. 
Ring chasing at 25 years old? What part of the game is that?
The heat won and that's great, but when 3 franchise players join up together are we really surprised that they won?
What Lebron did would be like Jordan joining the lakers before the 90-91 season with a top 5 player(magic/wade) and then adding a top 15 player(Barkley/bosh).
Or if Shaq joined the Lakers in 02' with a top 5 player in Kobe(Wade) and another top 12-15 player in Dirk(Bosh)
This shyt is unprecedented
Joining an already established team=ring chasing. Joining a team as building block not so much. BTW Shaq joined a 50 win Laker team in 96. Great players have been winning with other great players since the NBA started. That's the way it's been and always will be. Beyond that let's not act like Bron just rode nikkas coattails. The nikkas put up 30 and 10 for the entire playoffs and played all 5 positions on defense. They won, he beasted, just accept it and move on.
This.
Give me Mike because he was close to Bron in reb and passing but far beyond in terms of scoring and scoring efficiency. Better one on one defender while Bron is a better help defender. Mike steals one in 07 and doesn't let last year happen.
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Who the fvck left? JJ Hickson, Big Z fat and flabby Shaq
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He was a FREE AGENT!!! He could have just as easily left if he won the title, more so even because he would have had a lot less stress and pressure on his back when he went to join the Heat.Did it ever occur to anybody that he was having a bad series and his teammates where playing magnitudes worse than him so they couldnt win!
Who the fvck left? JJ Hickson, Big Z fat and flabby Shaq
Did it ever occur to anybody that he was having a bad series and his teammates where playing magnitudes worse than him so they couldnt win!
Breh I got not problem with you, but you know damn well Lebron couldnt leave Cleavland if they won the chip in 2010. What would his excuse be? I couldn't win with them? You just won
with the Cavs losing he had his built in excuseThat's like Jordan leaving the bulls after their first chip. That would never happen
I think that's where u messing up at breh....
Nobody was changing teams in the 90s like they are now. Free agency was on a completely different level than it is now. Shaq was the one that really shook shyt up. There is no telling what Jordan would have done in today's free agent market.
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Breh I got not problem with you, but you know damn well Lebron couldnt leave Cleavland if they won the chip in 2010. What would his excuse be? I couldn't win with them? You just won
That's like Jordan leaving the bulls after their first chip. That would never happen
Why would he need an excuse to leave! He didnt demand a trade he was a free agent. Him winning a title in Cleveland would only have been good for him, in terms of critizism it would be damn near non exsistant.
He could say "It took longer than I liked but after 7 season I accomplished my goal and brought a title to my home state and now I want a new challenge, as well as the oppurtunity to play with my good friends Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh" then insert witty line or joke about no taxes in Florida
and your done.
aixenv
Lakers World Order
i can't hate on that logic, truth.com
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Brown_Pride
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SO your argument is that because the game evolved MJ couldn't play now? You assume he wouldn't evolve too. It's hard to compare defenses now vs then simply because of the zone. IMHO 1 v 1 defense was better then because YOU HAD TO know how to do it, which means the double and triple teams MJ went up against were against defenders who knew how to play defense, not guys who relied solely on sagging to the middle.
FYI jordan's best years where when he was shooting, the zone woudln't do much for that.
Kobe is sick in his own right and his own day but POUND FOR POUND (meaning taking into account the different eras and adjusting for certain things like defenses and offenses) MJ would still be a dominate and great player today.
And you act like 40 year olds get "hot" all the time in the NBA. The fact that you bring up "age" when it's convenient for you but disregard the fact that at 40 dude was still able to run and gun AND dominate games in his 40's; we're not talking robert parish "dominate" by playing, were talking 20.ppg his final season with a shyt team putting up 40 in 3 games and 20+ points against teams like the lakers...40 years old mind you that's an old man playing a game against KIDS almost half his age...
Also take into consideration that shyt grows and changes so an apples to apples comparison will always be hard. Training techniques, nutrition, LEARNED and APPLIED experience from couches and players all that factors in. The game is more complex now for sure, but also more scientific and you have to factor that in when trying to compare the two. (how much you want to be 2 raw eggs were a part of the "nutrition" package for some of those players and that was cutting edge.)
What's scary is that in spite of all the applied science and experience a decade later and dude at 40 could still play the game...dominate? NO but be effective...honestly i bet those knees are killing him, but the fact that he might even come off the bench is fukin amazing.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
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Mike clearly has the more complete body of work but LeBron is only 27.