rings and legacy aside who would you start a franchise with. jordan or lebron

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not fair comment, the bulls still had pippen

Exactly so people need to stop acting like Mike won all those championships himself. LeBron finally has some decent help so lets see how his career compares to Jordan now.
 

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^^^^^ still has yet to be answered.:leostare:

Either way, its still Mike handsdown

27 year old Mike would have SHREDDED that Dallas defense in last years finals

Jordan was a better offensive player and he was better on defense. He wasn't as versatile as lebron on defense, but he was better
 

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Jordan, better player and more loyal to a franchise. Mike ain't leaving Back to back 60 win teams at 25 to go ring chase
 

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But Lebron is playing in a much tougher era defensively and has more competition at the Wings. Zone defense is legal now and defenses are on a whole more advanced now then ever before.

And let's be real, the Thunder would sweep the 97-98 Jazz
 
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Jordan, better player and more loyal to a franchise. Mike ain't leaving Back to back 60 win teams at 25 to go ring chase

Niqqa please! Bron spent 25 years of his life in ohio he did his fvcking time.
If they put the trash in Cleveland around Mike he would have killed one of them niqqas. I could see Oak doing life cause they found Eric Snows body in the trunk of his caddy
 

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Exactly so people need to stop acting like Mike won all those championships himself. LeBron finally has some decent help so lets see how his career compares to Jordan now.

Decent help he has wade and bosh

:russ:at nikkaz trying to make the Heat the 94' Rockets

I KNEW this would happen as soon as Lebron won
 

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Niqqa please! Bron spent 25 years of his life in ohio he did his fvcking time.
If they put the trash in Cleveland around Mike he would have killed one of them niqqas. I could see Oak doing life cause they found Eric Snows body in the trunk of his caddy

Let these nikkas tell it, Verajao, Ilgauskus, Snow, and Hickson would be all time greats if they played with Jordan.
 

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Mike ain't leaving Back to back 60 win teams at 25 to go ring chase

I thought we were done punishing Bron for wanting to play with other talented players. Nobody can do it alone, not even the great Jordan.

U talking like he went to the Heat and rode Bosh and Wade to a ring.....that would be ring chasing. He went to the Heat and carried that entire team on his back to a ring. He earned that ring.
 

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Niqqa please! Bron spent 25 years of his life in ohio he did his fvcking time.
If they put the trash in Cleveland around Mike he would have killed one of them niqqas. I could see Oak doing life cause they found Eric Snows body in the trunk of his caddy


"Trash" doesn't lead the league in wins 2 years in a row I'm sorry. Or are you going to tell me Lebron won 66 games by himself(and then when talking about how they Lost, say "well teams win games, not individuals":stopitslime:)

You can't have it both ways

Trash is the 30 and 40 win Wolves teams that KG was on from 05-07.

The Cavs coulda won a title in 10' if Lebron didn't quit from game 4-6 against Boston

21.3 ppg, 34% FG, 46.9% TS:mjpls:
 

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Jordan, better player and more loyal to a franchise. Mike ain't leaving Back to back 60 win teams at 25 to go ring chase

Mike stayed and did it there, he would never have left he had too much pride to go and join Charles Barkley and Ewing JUST to win a title

and that is the main reason that LBJ could would 15 titles and will never compare to Jordan because he had to run away from the cavs to do it, instead of staying loyal and getting it done with his hometown
 

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Decent help he has wade and bosh

:russ:at nikkaz trying to make the Heat the 94' Rockets

I KNEW this would happen as soon as Lebron won

What, nikka what I'm saying is LeBron finally has all-star players with him just like Jordan did. It's y'all who make it seem like the Bulls were the 94 Rockets.
 

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Y'all people talking that loyalty shyt are crazy. You gonna punish LeBron for playing for an inept franchise and praise Jordan for staying on a team that had Pippen and other actual good players. Who was on Cleveland that LeBron should have been happy to play with?
 

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Exactly so people need to stop acting like Mike won all those championships himself. LeBron finally has some decent help so lets see how his career compares to Jordan now.

I dont' disagree very few teams have ever won a title with 1 superstar and a bunch of scrubs

Hell the only team that comes to mind that made it to the finals with 1 superstar recently is AI and the 76ers (which speaks for how amazing AI was)

And I agree let's have this conversation in 10yrs, and see where Lebron stacks up, also Jordan got robbed on a few MVP awards for the season, he should easily have 2 more

and a perfect record in the finals and 6 mvps.. that's hard to discount

like someone else said.. Jordan at Lebrons age would have ate the mavs up last year

I really think some of the people living in the moment just never saw that man put in work (MJ), go look at some youtubes (AND i dont mean you specifically just in general)

As a self proclaims anti-Lebron fan which I've said numerous times, I'll also admit he was beast mode since the boston game, if he continues playing like that, and doesn't get complacent, it's going to be very interesting over the next 5yrs
 
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