Rip Hamilton on 2004 Pistons vs 2016 Warriors "It would be no comparison"
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the kind of defenders that bother KD are the smaller/stronger Tony Allen types. Prince would get smoked 
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Because when both teams are good on defense and the other can't score for shyt it goes one way. That shyt wouldn't happen with a team like Detroit because they couldn't score. If they were anything beyond a fluke team that was lucky to run into a self destructing laker team then they would have repeated. If Kobe had simply not gone full retard then nobody would remember them as anything special. That team didn't even win 55 games and the dumbasses on here think they belong up there with the 2001 lakers or 2015 warriors or 2014 spurs or 2013 heat or any of the best teams of the last 25 years. Detroit didn't even win their division that year.
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Detroit couldn't score.
GS going cold aside, they were still a damned good defensive team. Detroit man.... Billups would have to carry them entirely. He's never done that over a full series. Throw Klay on him, let Curry play duck duck goose with Rip through screens and its done.
GS going cold aside, they were still a damned good defensive team. Detroit man.... Billups would have to carry them entirely. He's never done that over a full series. Throw Klay on him, let Curry play duck duck goose with Rip through screens and its done.
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That's not a thing
You aren't holding the Warriors to 85 points over the course of a series
Billups is going to have to take that series over to beat that team, and he doesn't have that in him
Are we talking about the 15-16 Warriors or the 16-17 Warriors? If we're talking about the latter
Warriors are sweeping
16-17 Warriors have no real rim protector. Sheed would be feasting with chumps like McGee and Pachullia.
Even if they had Bogut, Draymond would defend Sheed and do a good job on him. He was never a dominant scorer and would not be that against the Warriors
Pachulia's (And everyone on the Warriors collectively, really) job should be trying to keep Ben off the glass. Was a horrific offensive player that would probably get intentionally fouled and not be respected much
When locked on, Rasheed can look like he's a hall of famer. He had the talent but he didn't have the discipline. He matched pretty well against the likes of Shaq, KG and Duncan on some occasions. Green never had defended anyone over 6'9" in the playoffs with the skills equivalent to Sheed. Rasheed can do what Draymond can with much more efficiency.
Even if not efficient on scoring, Big Ben is a beast on boards. None on the Warriors roster can outrebound him even if they wanted. Not even Shaq can contain him in the glass. Plus the new anti hack-a-shaq rule would only give Ben more benefits.
Yep he was one of the most talented players ever but never reached his full potential. Although he could do anything on the court from anywhere and could play all 3 positions on the front line.
Stop it
I'm a Kobe stan but his performance in the finals was trash (he forced the issue way too much), Shaq was good but didn't care about defending, Malone was washed and injured, GP never fit in and their rotation was garbage (Devean George, Medvedenko and old ass Rick Fox/Horace Grant got consistent minutes)
Could say the same for LaMarcus Aldridge who's better than he ever was. Same offensive style, Green defends him well.
Sheed is a better scorer than Green, but sure as hell not the swiss army knife defender or playmaker that he is. He also shot worse from three in '04 than Green did in '16.
Hack-a-shaq is still a thing, just can't do it in the last two minutes of a period. Ben is going to get his on the glass but even with the extra possessions the Pistons offense wasn't good enough to take advantage of that like OKC & Cleveland did.
You will never beat the Warriors in a series with an average offensive team. You need a LeBron, a Durant, a Westbrook, a Kyrie to put them out of the playoffs. Nobody on Detroit was taking over a series like that and their defense while great, it's not realistic to expect them to choke out three top ten scorers.
Not completely true. We never saw them against Spurs in the playoffs so we can't conclude that yet. And Aldridge never have the defensive prowess of Rasheed. You need to shut down their 3 point shooting. Cavs already showed blueprints. Both Klay and Curry were terrible in the finals. If they ain't hitting threes, they are pretty average. Teams like Celtics were close on sweeping them last regular season and there were only 2 or 3 teams with elite perimeter defenders. Billups and Prince aren't slouch on on the defensive end either and capable enough of shutting down Warriors three. Now that only leaves Durant to create something out of nothing, but could also end up bricking shots like he did during the WCF.
Let's not forget that they took Spurs with prime Timmy to 7 games. That Spurs team can definitely beat the Warriors too
