RIP Kyren Lacy

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Another fukking idiot :snoop:

He played high level football. The end. Yes, that is EXACTLY why CTE is possible. Literally only bc he played football. Like is this a joke

And wym ‘evidence to corroborate my claim’. What’s my claim? Your poor reading comprehension—-or determination to be contrarian——wants to believe my claim is “He did this bc of CTE or he had CTE’. That is false. My and others’ claim is simple: CTE cannot be ruled out. The evidence to corroborate THAT claim is listed above. CTE was found in 92% of former players, as well as his abnormal behavior.

This is an extremely easy conversation to have if you
have a modicum of reading comprehension and stop trying to stay on code. Again, grow up
it would be an easy conversation if you understood the relationship behind correlation and causation. Unless you have access to some autopsy reports that haven’t been made available to the public yet, you have nothing to go off on for this young mans case other than your desire to diagnose every “high level football player” with CTE (unless you want to use articles like the one you linked referencing people that played in Super Bowl 4, an interesting choice). If we want to go down that route of not ruling out things if he drank we can’t rule out liver disease causing encephalopathy, if he smoked we can’t rule out metastatic lung cancer to his brain causing erratic behavior. Yall didn’t like science class for a reason it’s clear. Most people in the field of science like to go off of data and so far “he played football” isn’t enough data to put something in the conversation unless you have more evidence to support your claim

Like literally waiting a few weeks for an autopsy with evidence of CTE would make this all a moot point but yall like jumping on everything to be first
 
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Wasn't guilt, he fled the scene. This man wasn't ready to go to court on Monday and face that jail sentence. Had the world in front of him

So he ended his life. Sad story
The crazy part is it was only a hearing; it’s not like they were locking him up right then or even about to go to trial.

He had enough potential and access to money that he could’ve possibly got off lighter than a non-NFL prospect would have.

His issue was he couldn’t see himself doing anything other than being a football player, which is sad for someone that young.
 

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it would be an easy conversation if you understood the relationship behind correlation and causation. Unless you have access to some autopsy reports that haven’t been made available to the public yet, you have nothing to go off on for this young mans case other than your desire to diagnose every “high level football player” with CTE (unless you want to use articles like the one you linked referencing people that played in Super Bowl 4, an interesting choice). If we want to go down that route of not ruling out things if he drank we can’t rule out liver disease causing encephalopathy, if he smoked we can’t rule out metastatic lung cancer to his brain causing erratic behavior. Yall didn’t like science class for a reason it’s clear. Most people in the field of science like to off of data and so far “he played football” isn’t enough data to put something in the conversation unless you have more evidence to support your claim

Like literally waiting a few weeks for an autopsy with evidence of CTE would make this all a moot point but yall like jumping on everything to be first
CTE is something only found if the family wants his brain to be studied, which is not a guarantee.

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with speculating CTE played a part in his decision making as he demonstrated behaviors consistent with other football players who took a similar way out.
 

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CTE is something only found if the family wants his brain to be studied, which is not a guarantee.

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with speculating CTE played a part in his decision making as he demonstrated behaviors consistent with other football players who took a similar way out.
I mean sure nikkas can speculate til the cows come home :yeshrug: the speculation holds more weight if the brain actually has signs of CTE, but this isn’t worth arguing over for hours. I realize that nikkas was sleep during science class and love to argue so it’s whatever :yeshrug: I’ll let TMZ speculate for me I don’t need to do it myself
 

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“But one cannot say definitively that it wasn't a factor in Lacy.”

No one can say anything because we have no data. We have no autopsy. We have nothing but click bait headlines and a dead man. So we can’t definitely say anything. Therefore we probably shouldn’t even mention CTE since we have no evidence to corroborate mentioning it other than he played the sport of football. There was a time when people based inferences off data and evidence but that time has long passed us apparently.
We know more than him just playing football. We know he acted in erratic ways that not every player on his team acted. It's more than just "he played football".
 

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Wasn't guilt, he fled the scene. This man wasn't ready to go to court on Monday and face that jail sentence. Had the world in front of him

So he ended his life. Sad story

I'm not even convinced he tried to commit that anymore, all the reports say the cops noticed he had a self inflicted gunshot wound when they tried to get him out of the crashed car but they don't indicate where. If it's to the head then of course it's obvious, but I haven't seen anything clearly stated
 

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We know more than him just playing football. We know he acted in erratic ways that not every player on his team acted. It's more than just "he played football".
Ok. So if they all have CTE because they all play “high level football” like yall are saying and he was the only one acting different, what is the likelihood CTE played a role? What is the likelihood other circumstances that those other players don’t have (like a pending case and crashing draft stock) played a role?

I’m not trying to be disrespectful, all I’m saying is literally waiting a week for an autopsy report confirming evidence suspicious for CTE would make the speculation valid. This really isn’t worth arguing about until you have actual evidence of brain trauma. Then at that point, saying it could have played a role is valid.
 

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I mean sure nikkas can speculate til the cows come home :yeshrug: the speculation holds more weight if the brain actually has signs of CTE, but this isn’t worth arguing over for hours. I realize that nikkas was sleep during science class and love to argue so it’s whatever :yeshrug: I’ll let TMZ speculate for me I don’t need to do it myself

:mjtf: Man gtfo this thread. :mjlol:

When a ngga agrees with the post but still argues—-and uses multiple Kanye shrugs—-he’s on bullshyt

We also don’t have ‘proof’ he even committed suicide. ‘Self inflicted gunshot’ does not = suicide. It’s also an ‘apparent’ gunshot wound. :troll:

Hell we don’t know he was at fault in the accident. Got video proof? We can’t prove he was the driver :troll:

Nerd
 

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:mjtf: Man gtfo this thread. :mjlol:

When a ngga agrees with the post but still argues—-and uses multiple Kanye shrugs—-he’s on bullshyt

We also don’t have ‘proof’ he even committed suicide. ‘Self inflicted gunshot’ does not = suicide. It’s also an ‘apparent’ gunshot wound. :troll:

Hell we don’t know he was at fault in the accident. Got video proof? We can’t prove he was the driver :troll:

Nerd
I know. Again one of us was sleep during science class and it wasn’t me. That’s why you hell bent on arguing over something we have no evidence to rule in or out for this man in the first place. I ain’t one for the games, stick to tmz and tik tok that seems like it’s more your speed champ
 
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Ok. So if they all have CTE because they all play “high level football” like yall are saying and he was the only one acting different, what is the likelihood CTE played a role? What is the likelihood other circumstances that those other players don’t have (like a pending case and crashing draft stock) played a role?

I’m not trying to be disrespectful, all I’m saying is literally waiting a week for an autopsy report confirming evidence suspicious for CTE would make the speculation valid. This really isn’t worth arguing about until you have actual evidence of brain trauma. Then at that point, saying it could have played a role is valid.

I didn't say he was the only one "acting different". If he did have CTE, his behaviour could have been the result of multiple etiologies/concurrent disorders, whereas other players may not have those other disorders. Again, I'm not saying CTE as a contributor is the only possibility, but it is a possibility. However, I'm not saying "acting out" is pathognomonic for CTE.

Likely him having a case played a role in either a suicide or a death from reckless behaviour. But we don't even know if he committed suicide. And technically we don't even know if he was depressed. If we're against speculating, we can't even say he was depressed unless we have had convos with him or have access to his medical records. Some people are sociopaths or anti social personality disorder and feel no remorse and wouldn't even be depressed after this.
 

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I didn't say he was the only one "acting different". If he did have CTE, his behaviour could have been the result of multiple etiologies/concurrent disorders, whereas other players may not have those other disorders. Again, I'm not saying CTE as a contributor is the only possibility, but it is a possibility. However, I'm not saying "acting out" is pathognomonic for CTE.

Likely him having a case played a role in either a suicide or a death from reckless behaviour. But we don't even know if he committed suicide. And technically we don't even know if he was depressed. If we're against speculating, we can't even say he was depressed unless we have had convos with him or have access to his medical records. Some people are sociopaths or anti social personality disorder and feel no remorse and wouldn't even be depressed after this.
Gotcha :salute:
 

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Its scary breh. Absolutely terrifying. Half these so called pro black posters in here wont even admit they dont know this. Its a growing epidemic that isnt nearly discussed enough but niqqas want to cite CTE? My boy homie just lost a 12 year old son to suicide last week.
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never change....
Pop Watson’s father is buried a kid last week. He dropped it during a phone call. Some other kid in my son’s school killed himself.
Im sorry you feel a bytch way about me speaking on an epidemic among young Black men that Black folks are ignoring
 

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My and others’ claim is simple: CTE cannot be ruled out.

we have no evidence to rule in or out

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So you arguing for no reason at all. Pathetic.

On a positive note at least your buffoonery is underscoring a pertinent issue: black male fragility.

When mistakes are made, when ego is bruised, when there’s a crowd, when you’re just wrong: what IS it that makes brehs feel they can’t take ownership, show contrition, apologize, stfu, admit flaw, etc. :francis:
 
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