RIP Kyren Lacy

[Braman]

It is an insult to assign a disability as you put it to someone if it is not confirmed. At worst, it's malicious to the person and to the people who care about them. At best, it's a very dangerous assumption to assign to the person.

If it's confirmed by way of autopsy that's a different thing, but to jump out of the window on it especially when police are involved along with their history of lying on black men to paint narratives. CTE is something that can be found by way of autopsy. Just guessing it on the internet because a football player is involved is wild.

So…you don’t understand CTE.



The study examined the brains of deceased former football players (CTE can only be diagnosed after death) and found that 110 out of 111 brains of those who played in the NFL had CTE.

So, where you are ignorant—-and I mean that in the literal sense——is that it is nearly a forgone conclusion that ALL high level football players end up with CTE. That is a tough pill to swallow. Therefore you won’t have that fed to you on mainstream media and the NFL isn’t going to remind you. We just use our common fukking sense

So, CTE isn’t even the question. The question is will it affect them. Thankfully, not everyone is effected by likely having it. Like how 2 people can have Covid and one has symptoms and the other doesn’t. And if you question if it can cause adverse effects this soon go look up Titus Young and get back to me. Actually I’ll make it easy for you:

NFL's Titus Young -- Football Hits Caused Mental Issues ... Doctors Say

Titus was 23 when he did a 180. So that’s the last I’ll discuss CTE bc quite frankly y’all aren’t capable of having this conversation

 

[Trips]

yo seeing the footage of the accident. What the actual fukk. It's not going to bring him back, but give his family all the money. And everyone associated with tying this to him need to be in jail. This is so fukked up.

 

[calh45]

So…you don’t understand CTE.



The study examined the brains of deceased former football players (CTE can only be diagnosed after death) and found that 110 out of 111 brains of those who played in the NFL had CTE.

So, where you are ignorant—-and I mean that in the literal sense——is that it is nearly a forgone conclusion that ALL high level football players end up with CTE. That is a tough pill to swallow. Therefore you won’t have that fed to you on mainstream media and the NFL isn’t going to remind you. We just use our common fukking sense

So, CTE isn’t even the question. The question is will it affect them. Thankfully, not everyone is effected by likely having it. Like how 2 people can have Covid and one has symptoms and the other doesn’t. And if you question if it can cause adverse effects this soon go look up Titus Young and get back to me. Actually I’ll make it easy for you:

NFL's Titus Young -- Football Hits Caused Mental Issues ... Doctors Say

Titus was 23 when he did a 180. So that’s the last I’ll discuss CTE bc quite frankly y’all aren’t capable of having this conversation

Have you ever played football beyond high school in your life? I have. I know and understand the idea and concept of CTE more than quite a lot of people, but you quoting a study at me to try and apply all things "bad" that happen to football players is missing the core idea of correlation vs causation. You're also misrepresenting the idea of how studies work, ya boy studied statistics in college, the sample they're pulling from matters. They studied 111 brains, but over 26,000 players have played in the NFL and about 17,000 are still alive. That means from an available range of 9,000 dead they've studied 111 players. That's less than 2% and even in their wildest dreams a statistician can't even correlate let alone derive causation with less than a 2% sample. The number tested is too small.

The issue isn't me not understanding CTE. The issue is you quoting studies you actually don't understand.

There is an explanation for why football players are more apt to have emotional outbursts, but that's more about the toxic ass emotionally manipulative environment than it is about CTE. If you want to know more about that I'll speak to it, but you ain't gonna talk at me with a link or podcast that you don't even really understand. That Will Smith movie did a number on some of y'all PR wise and skipped over the true reason as to why football players are actually fukked up.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

So…you don’t understand CTE.



The study examined the brains of deceased former football players (CTE can only be diagnosed after death) and found that 110 out of 111 brains of those who played in the NFL had CTE.

So, where you are ignorant—-and I mean that in the literal sense——is that it is nearly a forgone conclusion that ALL high level football players end up with CTE. That is a tough pill to swallow. Therefore you won’t have that fed to you on mainstream media and the NFL isn’t going to remind you. We just use our common fukking sense

So, CTE isn’t even the question. The question is will it affect them. Thankfully, not everyone is effected by likely having it. Like how 2 people can have Covid and one has symptoms and the other doesn’t. And if you question if it can cause adverse effects this soon go look up Titus Young and get back to me. Actually I’ll make it easy for you:

NFL's Titus Young -- Football Hits Caused Mental Issues ... Doctors Say

Titus was 23 when he did a 180. So that’s the last I’ll discuss CTE bc quite frankly y’all aren’t capable of having this conversation

This doesn't mean shyt..... You just wanna be right for whatever reason

 

[Braman]

Have you ever played football beyond high school in your life? I have. I know and understand the idea and concept of CTE more than quite a lot of people, but you quoting a study at me to try and apply all things "bad" that happen to football players is missing the core idea of correlation vs causation. You're also misrepresenting the idea of how studies work, ya boy studied statistics in college, the sample they're pulling from matters. They studied 111 brains, but over 26,000 players have played in the NFL and about 17,000 are still alive. That means from an available range of 9,000 dead they've studied 111 players. That's less than 2% and even in their wildest dreams a statistician can't even correlate let alone derive causation with less than a 2% sample. The number tested is too small.

The issue isn't me not understanding CTE. The issue is you quoting studies you actually don't understand.

There is an explanation for why football players are more apt to have emotional outbursts, but that's more about the toxic ass emotionally manipulative environment than it is about CTE. If you want to know more about that I'll speak to it, but you ain't gonna talk at me with a link or podcast that you don't even really understand. That Will Smith movie did a number on some of y'all PR wise and skipped over the true reason as to why football players are actually fukked up.

Man you all over place. Pick a defense tactic and stick with it; I didn’t play ball or I don’t know statistics? I’ll wash you in both. ‘If you want to know more I’ll speak to it’. Ngga gtfoh

You can’t even handle basic logic let alone statistics. Why are you citing 26,000 players and 9,000 players who are still alive when cte can only be diagnosed in death. So the feasible number you should mention would be the available number of recently deceased players. And they got that. Bc the nfl and subsequently player families were participating heavily, so over the 7 year research period they got a very high percentage of player brains donated. Then they got even more by 2023 when another study says it was 345/376, 91%.

Researchers Find CTE in 345 of 376 Former NFL Players Studied | Chobanian & Avedisian School of Medicine

www.bumc.bu.edu

And for reference they studied non-athlete brains and 1% had cte. This is not rocket science, unless you simply chose to be obtuse

 

[FukkaPaidEmail]

why sit on this video like there would be some big advantage to revealing it in court. young homie never made it to court.

Because he doesn’t have to defend this in criminal court

Lacy was speeding in the wrong lane ,one car sees him and stops and the one behind the stopped car doesn’t and tries to swerve to avoid rear-ending that car and ends up in that heads on collision .

So lacy was driving crazy ,which did lead to the events that wound up with dude dead


Now is that enough to be convicted of whatever he was charged with ? Idk…but it isn’t some complete vindication like I thought earlier .

Somebody must be about to sue I guess which is why the lawyer even released this

 

[No1]

This whole CTE vs. non-CTE debate going on is stupid. None of this has to be either or. But the only universal truth here is that the story we were fed was false.

 

[Mr. Jack Napier]

why sit on this video like there would be some big advantage to revealing it in court. young homie never made it to court.

Lane's lawyer apparently told him he needed one more day, I'm assuming the prosecution was bullshyt with them.

His lawyer also said at his funeral that he was going to expose the truth

 

[Womb Raider]

Because he doesn’t have to defend this in criminal court

Lacy was speeding in the wrong lane ,one car sees him and stops and the one behind the stopped car doesn’t and tries to swerve to avoid rear-ending that car and ends up in that heads on collision .

So lacy was driving crazy ,which did lead to the events that wound up with dude dead


Now is that enough to be convicted of whatever he was charged with ? Idk…but it isn’t some complete vindication like I thought earlier .

Somebody must be about to sue I guess which is why the lawyer even released this

This…at first I thought he as vindicated but looking more into it seems like his reckless driving caused the accident although he didn’t directly hit/kill anyone. fukk the police but Lacy may not have been 100% innocent either.

 

[broller]

Have you ever played football beyond high school in your life? I have. I know and understand the idea and concept of CTE more than quite a lot of people, but you quoting a study at me to try and apply all things "bad" that happen to football players is missing the core idea of correlation vs causation. You're also misrepresenting the idea of how studies work, ya boy studied statistics in college, the sample they're pulling from matters. They studied 111 brains, but over 26,000 players have played in the NFL and about 17,000 are still alive. That means from an available range of 9,000 dead they've studied 111 players. That's less than 2% and even in their wildest dreams a statistician can't even correlate let alone derive causation with less than a 2% sample. The number tested is too small.

The issue isn't me not understanding CTE. The issue is you quoting studies you actually don't understand.

There is an explanation for why football players are more apt to have emotional outbursts, but that's more about the toxic ass emotionally manipulative environment than it is about CTE. If you want to know more about that I'll speak to it, but you ain't gonna talk at me with a link or podcast that you don't even really understand. That Will Smith movie did a number on some of y'all PR wise and skipped over the true reason as to why football players are actually fukked up.

Break it down please. I like to hear your football insight.

 

[BucciMane]

This whole CTE vs. non-CTE debate going on is stupid. None of this has to be either or. But the only universal truth here is that the story we were fed was false.

People always bring up CTE when a football player involved. Most of the time it's going to have nothing to do with CTE. Yes, there are situations where CTE has played a role, but it's not the majority of the time. It's an easy scapegoat in situations.

Surveillance videos and body cams have become some of the best things to happen in recent times. This is absurd and disgusting.

 

[calh45]

Break it down please. I like to hear your football insight.

The core issue is forced emotional deregulation. No one really talks about where you have to go mentally to play football at a high level. You have to get yourself to a level of rage and/or psychosis to turn off the idea of self preservation. Imagine where you have to get mentally to see Derrick Henry running at you full speed and the ONLY mission is to stop him. Players making "business decisions" is a player remembering themselves in real time and when it happens a coach will stop playing that person.

For years, the best players have been able to get psyched up enough to forget their sense of personal safety which is also connected to impluse control and short term decision making. The longer you do this either one of these things happens: 1) You just can't get angry enough or worked up enough (This is what happened to me in college football where I tore a tendon in my foot and not getting there enough caused me to lose that ability) 2) The borders start to blur together and that rage/psychosis start to present itself in real life.

If since high school or younger in some cases you've been doing this to yourself, and being enabled by your coaches, AND sometimes players fall in category #2 a lot earlier than people realize. It's just that the football universe knows how to cover up incidents rather than have him talk to a therapist. An actual therapist might break a player's ability to get to where they need to be so when they're high level enough they send them to "sports" therapist.

I'm not saying CTE doesn't exist, but it is a convenient boogieman that only exists for football players and not soccer players (more headshots and concussions than people realize) or boxers or rugby players or UFC fighters. Ole boy's 110 out of 111 brains points to a 99.09% incident rate which means every NFL analyst and commentator would have it. We would see some signs of it given their visibility plus how many there are and we don't.

TL;DR - It's a sport where the really good players have to literally make themselves crazy and it can be very hard for some people to contain that crazy. Think of a method actor who gets too lost in a role. It happened to Michael B Jordan when he played Killmonger.

 

[broller]

The core issue is forced emotional deregulation. No one really talks about where you have to go mentally to play football at a high level. You have to get yourself to a level of rage and/or psychosis to turn off the idea of self preservation. Imagine where you have to get mentally to see Derrick Henry running at you full speed and the ONLY mission is to stop him. Players making "business decisions" is a player remembering themselves in real time and when it happens a coach will stop playing that person.

For years, the best players have been able to get psyched up enough to forget their sense of personal safety which is also connected to impluse control and short term decision making. The longer you do this either one of these things happens: 1) You just can't get angry enough or worked up enough (This is what happened to me in college football where I tore a tendon in my foot and not getting there enough caused me to lose that ability) 2) The borders start to blur together and that rage/psychosis start to present itself in real life.

If since high school or younger in some cases you've been doing this to yourself, and being enabled by your coaches, AND sometimes players fall in category #2 a lot earlier than people realize. It's just that the football universe knows how to cover up incidents rather than have him talk to a therapist. An actual therapist might break a player's ability to get to where they need to be so when they're high level enough they send them to "sports" therapist.

I'm not saying CTE doesn't exist, but it is a convenient boogieman that only exists for football players and not soccer players (more headshots and concussions than people realize) or boxers or rugby players or UFC fighters. Ole boy's 110 out of 111 brains points to a 99.09% incident rate which means every NFL analyst and commentator would have it. We would see some signs of it given their visibility plus how many there are and we don't.

TL;DR - It's a sport where the really good players have to literally make themselves crazy and it can be very hard for some people to contain that crazy. Think of a method actor who gets too lost in a role. It happened to Michael B Jordan when he played Killmonger.

I remember Cris Collinsworth mentioned that on a SNF broadcast maybe 5 or 6 years ago..he talked about what he had to do to get himself ready to take big hits in the 1980s

Or John Randle talking about turning into a different person on the field

But I agree it's understated. Good point and well thought out post.

 

[Braman]

Because he doesn’t have to defend this in criminal court

Lacy was speeding in the wrong lane ,one car sees him and stops and the one behind the stopped car doesn’t and tries to swerve to avoid rear-ending that car and ends up in that heads on collision .

So lacy was driving crazy ,which did lead to the events that wound up with dude dead


Now is that enough to be convicted of whatever he was charged with ? Idk…but it isn’t some complete vindication like I thought earlier .

Somebody must be about to sue I guess which is why the lawyer even released this

Where are you getting this from?!?

 

[Braman]

TL;DR - It's a sport where the really good players have to literally make themselves crazy and it can be very hard for some people to contain that crazy. Think of a method actor who gets too lost in a role. It happened to Michael B Jordan when he played Killmonger.

This is horseshyt.

1- Football doesn’t make someone any more ‘crazy’ than growing up in the hood, not having a father around, institutional racism, childhood trauma, etc. All of those things can be true at the same exact time. CTE——its lifelong effects that are documented as being prevalent in HS—-is just another factor. It is THAT simple. Discounting it, would be like discounting any of the factors above.

2- “Emotional deregulation” is literally a side effect of CTE. So you are willfully ignoring the chicken or egg situation we now know of. Perhaps the medical aspect of football—-not the anecdotal ‘trust me bro’ shyt you on—— is degrading their emotional faculties. Which is NOT to be conflated with ‘making them crazy’ or being used to blame. It is, again, an aggravating factor

3- Lastly, get tf off this ‘i played HS football’ high horse. We all did ngga. My cousin played arguably the most violent position safety in the Big 10. He played for Nick saban. He played against Brady and Drew Brees. Yet he is and was the quietest most soft spoken dude. He didn’t need to gO cRaZy to play. Why? Bc that wasn’t already in him. Football isn’t ‘making’ people into a certain way. And neither is CTE. Yet it is a potentially aggravating factor that can make existing fears/trauma/emotional deficiencies worse.