Rituals work.

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So you have no actual documentation to support your point. You are talking about graduation gowns like they prove your point. I gave you something to read so that you can learn what the differences are, but I am pretty sure you avoided it. You rather remain ignorant and argue from that ignorance instead of actually understanding the truth and working to defend your point with a counter valid source of information. See, arguing in ignorance is absolutely easy, takes no effort, and requires no real knowledge and understanding of what you are talking about, so many like you do it without a care.

So, if you want me to take you seriously. Bring out some actual article or something that proves your point. Throwing up a graduation picture only proves that you mistake a traditional uniform for education competition for some ritualistic act. It also shows that you have no clue of what a ritual actually is.
You're exemplifying the zealous attitude that is inherent in the people who are brought up under the religion of science. That link you posted is full of incoherent claims such as

Science is based on universal truths brought about by observations and experiments.
Universal truths are not "brought about".

Rituals are performed for their symbolic value. They are in fact prescribed by religion or traditions of a community or society.
This is exactly the kind of ritual that I referenced in my previous post. But that article and you don't understand that science is just another human enterprise built on such rituals. It points to a mistaken distinction between "science" versus "religion" as if science is not a form of religion, which it absolutely is.

Science involves debates and discourses whereas rituals do not involve debates and discourses.
Another false claim. The ritual in science that I referenced is but one of many examples of rituals involving debates and discourse.

There are many more such mistakes in the article but they all stem from the same fundamental flaw in zealous science stans: they lack an understanding of what "science" is and therefore lack self-knowledge as they don't understand their role in the religious system they defend.

Science is just a religion built around the narcissistic side of human nature that is out for control. Scientists only praise the virtues of debates and discourse until you trip up their ingrained beliefs about society that they have never questioned nor are willing to give up after they become aware of them.

It's because science is a religion that is used to sustain a socio-economic order in which inequality of citizens is the goal. It makes people less capable of critical thinking except in a very few limited areas of human endeavors. All around it is harmful to healthy human societies because it breeds narcissistic people as it needs those to support the social order it is embedded in.
 

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Ima be absolutely real, I 100 percent believe this bytch that used to work at my job put a spell on me. I never liked this bytch always paid her dust cause she was nasty and cold towards me (and to black folks in general while you bullshytin), then for no reason at all out of nowhere, she’s all I can think about. It was like some magnetic pull pulling me towards her, like I couldn’t even function unless I asked her out, at the very least talk to her. Then I noticed she started acting real nicer towards me. All of this after a year of being around her. But again, I don’t fukk with her at all.

Hair starts falling out, feeling more suicidal, weight starts going up, restless nights, nightmares start to intensify, wake up thinking about her, go to sleep thinking about her. And I would always catch her staring from a distance. One day I looked in the mirror and saw a 50 year old man, mind you I’m in my late 20s. Anytime I tried to talk to a chick it was like she felt that shyt and something would stop me from taking it further with whomever I was speaking to, and just a whole series of bad luck started to happen around me like I constantly had this black cloud hovering above me. Her uncommon ass name would randomly start to pop up everywhere.

Every time I googled why these things were happening to me, I would either get love spell or twin flame. I know for a fact the last one ain’t a possibility, so I’m leaning towards witchcraft or some sort of voodoo hex. I haven’t prayed this much to God in a long time, honestly I feel like He’s doing all of this to pull me closer to Him, like Job in a way, all a test from Him.
 
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I used to laugh about this shyt until I realized in Africa there's a lot more than meets the eye. And whether you think its hogwash or not realize some people believe in it and practice it and it gives them results whether you want to believe it or not.
I read the entire post but shorted it so people who view this thread ain't gotta scroll past it twice. I believe everything you posted and the experiences you shared. I heard all types of stuff too from west indian people I hung out with who were into the lifestyle.
 

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You're exemplifying the zealous attitude that is inherent in the people who are brought up under the religion of science. That link you posted is full of incoherent claims such as


Universal truths are not "brought about".


This is exactly the kind of ritual that I referenced in my previous post. But that article and you don't understand that science is just another human enterprise built on such rituals. It points to a mistaken distinction between "science" versus "religion" as if science is not a form of religion, which it absolutely is.


Another false claim. The ritual in science that I referenced is but one of many examples of rituals involving debates and discourse.

There are many more such mistakes in the article but they all stem from the same fundamental flaw in zealous science stans: they lack an understanding of what "science" is and therefore lack self-knowledge as they don't understand their role in the religious system they defend.

Science is just a religion built around the narcissistic side of human nature that is out for control. Scientists only praise the virtues of debates and discourse until you trip up their ingrained beliefs about society that they have never questioned nor are willing to give up after they become aware of them.

It's because science is a religion that is used to sustain a socio-economic order in which inequality of citizens is the goal. It makes people less capable of critical thinking except in a very few limited areas of human endeavors. All around it is harmful to healthy human societies because it breeds narcissistic people as it needs those to support the social order it is embedded in.
You still did not place up any actual documentation that counters what I posted for you. Here you are again reasserting your statement with no support, like your word is an authority on the issue.

Example, "Universal truths are not "brought about".

You do not even understand what brought about means in that context. It means that the universal truths are realized and exposed to man by observation and study, it does not mean man created the universal truths. A simple ability to use context clues and understand how a phrase is being used defeated you.

So what you have shown me is that you are incapable of using context clues, and also that you still are going to argue from your point of ignorance and without a single documentation to support your claims. No amount of the dribble you wrote would hold any weight in an actual academic setting. You could not debunk a written paper with your method of arguing like you are an authority on the issue. Let me clue you in, you are not. So how about you actually use someone or some organization that is an authority on the issue to support your position? Oh right, that would require too much work and like I demonstrated above, you could not even understand the context in which "brought about" was used.
 

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Thread is very confusing. There's this fine line between routine and ritual.. and then some of us are addressing the fact that some of these things people are doing, there's a short list of people who do very specific ones that work. It's not common knowledge. Off the strength of this thread when I was over at my moms house today i asked about the dude running around doing shyt behind the house and they all told me he was there last night. Thankfully these specific type people are harmless but want to troll you and keep you awake is there thing. Make you have some fear. Dogs still can't seem to catch him, and i seen those things bolt out the gate today and they are too damn fast.

Somehow the story drifted to some area thieves, we were speaking on someone we knew who got robbed by another person we know, then there was an attempt before on another gas station, where these people broke into the place only to find a large black cat in there. Then the owner somehow knew who these guys were and told them if you try again... you are fukked. They tried a different one and it's like the owner knew and the moment they went they got shot and died. People were waiting on them on the day of because the owner knew somehow. Quiet as kept these Somali business men have some powerful stuff going on with them. You ever seen a place get robbed only for the thieves to return things themselves? A guy who's far away from his business calling someone specific and saying hey if you don't return the money you stole... with the guy wondering how did you even know

That world is :whoa: to me.
 

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Thread is very confusing. There's this fine line between routine and ritual.. and then some of us are addressing the fact that some of these things people are doing, there's a short list of people who do very specific ones that work. It's not common knowledge. Off the strength of this thread when I was over at my moms house today i asked about the dude running around doing shyt behind the house and they all told me he was there last night. Thankfully these specific type people are harmless but want to troll you and keep you awake is there thing. Make you have some fear. Dogs still can't seem to catch him, and i seen those things bolt out the gate today and they are too damn fast.

Somehow the story drifted to some area thieves, we were speaking on someone we knew who got robbed by another person we know, then there was an attempt before on another gas station, where these people broke into the place only to find a large black cat in there. Then the owner somehow knew who these guys were and told them if you try again... you are fukked. They tried a different one and it's like the owner knew and the moment they went they got shot and died. People were waiting on them on the day of because the owner knew somehow. Quiet as kept these Somali business men have some powerful stuff going on with them. You ever seen a place get robbed only for the thieves to return things themselves? A guy who's far away from his business calling someone specific and saying hey if you don't return the money you stole... with the guy wondering how did you even know

That world is :whoa: to me.
They might have said they were finished with them voodoo bytches and the rest was history :wow: said I’m the night captain now
 

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Thread is very confusing. There's this fine line between routine and ritual.. and then some of us are addressing the fact that some of these things people are doing, there's a short list of people who do very specific ones that work. It's not common knowledge. Off the strength of this thread when I was over at my moms house today i asked about the dude running around doing shyt behind the house and they all told me he was there last night. Thankfully these specific type people are harmless but want to troll you and keep you awake is there thing. Make you have some fear. Dogs still can't seem to catch him, and i seen those things bolt out the gate today and they are too damn fast.

Somehow the story drifted to some area thieves, we were speaking on someone we knew who got robbed by another person we know, then there was an attempt before on another gas station, where these people broke into the place only to find a large black cat in there. Then the owner somehow knew who these guys were and told them if you try again... you are fukked. They tried a different one and it's like the owner knew and the moment they went they got shot and died. People were waiting on them on the day of because the owner knew somehow. Quiet as kept these Somali business men have some powerful stuff going on with them. You ever seen a place get robbed only for the thieves to return things themselves? A guy who's far away from his business calling someone specific and saying hey if you don't return the money you stole... with the guy wondering how did you even know

That world is :whoa: to me.
@DON MA MA you got any advice for this guy and his mom? He has some random guy a "night runner" throwing rocks at her window. He got dogs but they can't seem to catch the night runner. So he tried the carnal any spiritual solutions?

I would say have your moms read these bible verses every night. Read Ecclesiastes 3:5 then reread it from verse 1 down to 8 at least three times preferably out of the King james. Then you can have her read these verses from proverbs. After reading these verses pray and ask God to deal with the night runner.

Ecclesiastes 3:5 kjv
5 A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
Proverbs 30:5 kjv
5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.

Proverbs 10:23-24 kjv
23 It is as sport to a fool to do mischief: but a man of understanding hath wisdom. 24 The fear of the wicked, it shall come upon him: but the desire of the righteous shall be granted.
 

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@DON MA MA you got any advice for this guy and his mom? He has some random guy a "night runner" throwing rocks at her window. He got dogs but they can't seem to catch the night runner. So he tried the carnal any spiritual solutions?

I would say have your moms read these bible verses every night. Read Ecclesiastes 3:5 then reread it from verse 1 down to 8 at least three times preferably out of the King james. Then you can have her read these verses from proverbs. After reading these verses pray and ask God to deal with the night runner.

Ecclesiastes 3:5 kjv
5 A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
Proverbs 30:5 kjv
5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.

Proverbs 10:23-24 kjv
23 It is as sport to a fool to do mischief: but a man of understanding hath wisdom. 24 The fear of the wicked, it shall come upon him: but the desire of the righteous shall be granted.
Im not sure what his mother believes and is open to but his mother should do what the old folk did.

The basics...

Clean her house from front to back, inside and out. Mopping floors, washing windows inside and out. Pray over the soap and water out loud and tell it what to do, which is get rid of dirt n bacteria and help create an environment that is unwelcoming to unclean spirits. While she's cleaning, speak physical and spiritual ownership over her home, out loud, open doors and demand any negative spirits to leave the home, do tha same for outside the home. Wipe peppermint oil over her door frames and on window seals inside and out. While doing this speak confirmation of God's protection over her home and it's inhabitants.
Write on a piece paper the demand of this nefarious spirit to cease it's activity in yalls lives, place the paper under a white 7 day candle burn it in a safe space don't put it out. If you must put it out, don't blow it out. Put something over it to deprive it of oxygen till the flame is dead but re light is within the 7 days.
If she reads the Bible say Psalm 23 before she goes to bed.



This isn't complex or something secretive this is what our grandparents did even if they went to church and it didn't cost much money and this practice emphasizes our own spiritual power, the elimination of fear and embraces purity.

If this thing is throwing rocks at night this is a scary bytchass disturbance that can only grow when fear it present. Tell yo mama to step into her power and eliminate her fear and know God has given her the power of words and the distinctive quality of spirit is thought and belief, so make sure her words reflect this.
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Thanks for replying. @Blackrogue Come check this post out maybe it will help you and your mother. The poster was nice enough to share some advice. DON MA MA Recommended praying and cleaning around the house. I got a question why don't you blow out the candle?
Im not sure what his mother believes and is open to but his mother should do what the old folk did.

The basics...

Clean her house from front to back, inside and out. Mopping floors, washing windows inside and out. Pray over the soap and water out loud and tell it what to do, which is get rid of dirt n bacteria and help create an environment that is unwelcoming to unclean spirits. While she's cleaning, speak physical and spiritual ownership over her home, out loud, open doors and demand any negative spirits to leave the home, do tha same for outside the home. Wipe peppermint oil over her door frames and on window seals inside and out. While doing this speak confirmation of God's protection over her home and it's inhabitants.
Write on a piece paper the demand of this nefarious spirit to cease it's activity in yalls lives, place the paper under a white 7 day candle burn it in a safe space don't put it out. If you must put it out, don't blow it out. Put something over it to deprive it of oxygen till the flame is dead but re light is within the 7 days.
If she reads the Bible say Psalm 23 before she goes to bed.



This isn't complex or something secretive this is what our grandparents did even if they went to church and it didn't cost much money and this practice emphasizes our own spiritual power, the elimination of fear and embraces purity.

If this thing is throwing rocks at night this is a scary bytchass disturbance that can only grow when fear it present. Tell yo mama to step into her power and eliminate her fear and know God has given her the power of words and the distinctive quality of spirit is thought and belief, so make sure her words reflect this.
 

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Thanks for replying. @Blackrogue Come check this post out maybe it will help you and your mother. The poster was nice enough to share some advice. DON MA MA Recommended praying and cleaning around the house. I got a question why don't you blow out the candle?
Cause blowing em out is symbolic of you stopping the work instead of pausing it.
 

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@DON MA MA and @ba'al you guys have them too or know of them? I thought it was our thing :patrice:


edit: you know by night runner I mean an actual person but who's somehow possessed and fukking with you making a ruckus at night and trolling and being a nuissance. I asked my next door neighbour about it and he said the one they caught accidentally fell into a hole they had dug to plant a banana tree :dead:

and yes they did whoop his ass just to discipline him. Still see him around town to this day living a normal life during the day
 
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