Rod Strickland would eat in this era

[Professor Emeritus]

A 6'3", 175lb point guard with questionable work ethic and drive who shot 28% from three and had no midrange J either would eat today....WHY? We had him in Portland for pretty much the height of his prime, he was perfect to be an average/above-average starter the mid-90s but he falling off any time after that.

Y'all pick the WORST examples for this shyt.

Y’all say anybody could dominate in this era. “If Bob Cousy was in this era he’d put 40 a game “

This.

Rod was basically a poor man's version of Kyrie except he couldn't shoot for shyt and had less killer instinct. And that would eat in this era...why?

rod
nve
kj
timmy hardaway
etc... would kill now

Rod couldn't shoot - like I said he'd be two tiers below Kyrie

van Exel was boneheaded as hell, would fail for the same reasons that Brandon Jennings did

KJ couldn't shoot, basically a poor man's Westbrook

Tim Hardaway would be the best of the group but his lack of size would be a bigger issue now than it was in the 1990s. His kid got like 5-6 inches on him and still can't play D, imagine how much Tim Sr. would get exposed at 6'0". You gotta be a bulldog to make it at that height today and he wasn't that.

 

[Hey_zeus]

Hell, a younger Jamal Crawford would buckets all day in today's league.

 

[I.AM.PIFF]

And The RZA mentioning him at the end of Wu Tang Ain't Nothing to fukk With.

That was someone name Will Strickland tho

 

[NormanConnors]

rod
nve
kj
timmy hardaway
etc... would kill now

Facts

 

[NormanConnors]

Mark Price would eat in this era

He would, cats was trying to clown when I mentioned it a while ago but Mark was nice. I just didn't like the chump moves he tried to pull on Craig Hodges though.

 

[nieman]

A 6'3", 175lb point guard with questionable work ethic and drive who shot 28% from three and had no midrange J either would eat today....WHY? We had him in Portland for pretty much the height of his prime, he was perfect to be an average/above-average starter the mid-90s but he falling off any time after that.

Y'all pick the WORST examples for this shyt.




This.

Rod was basically a poor man's version of Kyrie except he couldn't shoot for shyt and had less killer instinct. And that would eat in this era...why?




Rod couldn't shoot - like I said he'd be two tiers below Kyrie

van Exel was boneheaded as hell, would fail for the same reasons that Brandon Jennings did

KJ couldn't shoot, basically a poor man's Westbrook

Tim Hardaway would be the best of the group but his lack of size would be a bigger issue now than it was in the 1990s. His kid got like 5-6 inches on him and still can't play D, imagine how much Tim Sr. would get exposed at 6'0". You gotta be a bulldog to make it at that height today and he wasn't that.

KJ couldn't shoot? KJ was all midrange dribble-pull. Young KJ was a slasher but Vet KJ was the midrange. If you want to say wasn't a 3 pt shooter, that's one thing, but he was money inside the arc.

And Rod Strickland didn't need to shoot. He could get to the basket and score playing under the rim. I always said that Derrick rose should've modeled his game after him, and play more under the rim.

 

[ISO]

KJ couldn't shoot? KJ was all midrange dribble-pull. Young KJ was a slasher but Vet KJ was the midrange. If you want to say wasn't a 3 pt shooter, that's one thing, but he was money inside the arc.

And Rod Strickland didn't need to shoot. He could get to the basket and score playing under the rim. I always said that Derrick rose should've modeled his game after him, and play more under the rim.

Why should D-Rose have modeled his game after him?

D-Rose himself is one of the G.O.A.T. below the rim finishers and has at least a top 5 lay-up package.

 

[ISO]

Hell, a younger Jamal Crawford would buckets all day in today's league.

Jamal would be the same gunner he’s always been lol

 

[Mandizi]

Tim Hardaway would be the best of the group but his lack of size would be a bigger issue now than it was in the 1990s. His kid got like 5-6 inches on him and still can't play D, imagine how much Tim Sr. would get exposed at 6'0". You gotta be a bulldog to make it at that height today and he wasn't that.

Nah. If 6 ft Chris Paul could eat, and 5'9" Isaiah Thomas can put up 29 a game in this era, Tim Bug would be just fine.

 

[Malcolmxxx_23]

The correct answer is NVE.



Imagine him playing in this era and breh was cold in the clutch

The 90s highlights so much dope
Driving
Dunking
Crossovers


Now highlight packages are 50 percent three pts attempts

 

[010101]

The 90s highlights so much dope
Driving
Dunking
Crossovers


Now highlight packages are 50 percent three pts attempts

man defense meant folks was likely to get exposed

that isolation shyte produces the coldest highlights

now they play hot potato & shoot over team defensive schemes

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[IrateMastermind]

I don't know why y'all act like none of the great players in the 90's couldn't learn how to shoot with all we know about shooting and how important it is in todays game.

Rod and Nick would probably eat in the no hand check era if they could find a great shooting coach and gave a fukk about improving.

 

[mastermind]

I don't know why y'all act like none of the great players in the 90's couldn't learn how to shoot

Why didn't they learn how to shoot back then?

You can't speculate on what their talents could have been. You can only go based on what is evident.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Nah. If 6 ft Chris Paul could eat, and 5'9" Isaiah Thomas can put up 29 a game in this era, Tim Bug would be just fine.

I said that I though Timmy would eat on offense.

But CP3 is a fukking bulldog on defense. Timmy wasn't. IT was 15 pounds heavier than Hardaway and WAY stronger than him and he was still fukking food on defense, to the point that the moment he lost half a step on O he was basically unplayable cause he was so bad at D.

Hardaway would play in this era, and he would be great on offense, I'm just saying that his shortcomings on defense would be a problem.

I don't know why y'all act like none of the great players in the 90's couldn't learn how to shoot with all we know about shooting and how important it is in todays game.

Rod and Nick would probably eat in the no hand check era if they could find a great shooting coach and gave a fukk about improving.

You mean if they were different players completely.

Why would players who were on competitive teams that kept falling short, who were borderline all-stars who weren't quite making it, who knew they NEEDED to improve but didn't, suddenly decide to start improving just because they were in that era and not this one?

Rod and Nick are the perfect examples of the EXACT players who had all the motivation in the world to improve. They were right at the cusp of doing something, both on the individual level and the team level. And they didn't do it. So I think it's fair to say that what we saw is what they are.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

KJ couldn't shoot? KJ was all midrange dribble-pull. Young KJ was a slasher but Vet KJ was the midrange. If you want to say wasn't a 3 pt shooter, that's one thing, but he was money inside the arc.

And Rod Strickland didn't need to shoot. He could get to the basket and score playing under the rim. I always said that Derrick rose should've modeled his game after him, and play more under the rim.

I covered this shyt already in the KJ thread. KJ had a midrange but only out to 15-18 and it wasn't at an elite level. In today's game where they understand that taking low-percentage shots leads to lost games, shooting 40% from midrange just ain't gonna cut it. If you're a point guard have to be at CP3 or Steve Nash range, shooting damn near 50% from midrange, for that to be helping your team on a regular basis, otherwise you're just giving away points every time you shoot it.

We don't have midrange stats from KJ's era but just from his overall stats and how good he was inside it's clear that he was missing a higher % of those midrange shots than you can allow for.

I watched KJ play plenty, he had a midrange shot but it was NOT automatic. Automatic is CP3 hitting damn near 50% from midrange. KJ wasn't doing that, he was barely shooting 50% from 2 overall despite being a great finisher and explosive dunker who got into the lane regularly. You can't be good both at the rim and at midrange, not shoot threes, and still shoot under 50%. And his best years were when NBA pace was high and defense was pretty weak, so generally teams were getting to the rim more and with that mad spacing on the Suns (Majerle/Hornacek/Chambers might have been the best 2-3-4 shooting lineup in the NBA), KJ had a lot of opportunities to get high-percentage shots..

He was making shyt inside, so how was he missing all those shots? They had to be from midrange. He had more of a Westbrook-level midrange game than a shooter's game.

The 90s highlights so much dope
Driving
Dunking
Crossovers

Now highlight packages are 50 percent three pts attempts

Zone defenses, everyone is cutting off the lanes and hedging on your tendencies, so it's much harder for small guys to get into the lane than it was in the 1990s.