Ron Harper: 1997 Bulls Would Sweep the Warriors

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lol mashburn had mourning in the paint cleaning up his shyt. Who's behind barnes and klay? What big is going to deter pippen from going to the cup and yamming on nikkas. defense is more than just 1 on 1. Pippen is going by barnes and who is going to contest him at the rim?

And Barnes has Bogut and Green in the paint :wtf: , Bogut was 2nd in the league last year in rim protection.


Pippen 16.7ppg on .393 vs Juwan Howard in the playoffs, what's the excuse for not cooking a PF? Since you only seem to have excuses :jbhmm:
 

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He made 24 threes in the playoffs, if you think giving up free threes is the way to win......:dead:

You brought up Anthony Mason in relation to Draymond Green, Mason didn't make a single three in the playoffs his entire career.

My initial post from mason i said he didn't have green's range but he could make plays and bring the ball up like green does. To me green's shot isn't good enough to warrant hard close outs on them. As a coach you can't stop everything, so something has to give. I'll give green, barnes, and iggy all the 3's they want. Barnes shot 40% in the finals, and iggy shot 40% as well. If they beat us like that I can live with it.
 

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not at 26% which is my point. Phil is going to tell our guys to soft clsose and force him to make shots.

think like this

steph and green run the 1-5 pick and roll the bulls have 2 options

A - trap the pick and roll with rodman and harper on curry and green has the ball on the perimeter. Phil tells the defenders not guarding to rotate to the middle in case green drives and soft close on his shot until rodman recovers. Never leave klay

B - switch the pick and roll with rodman and force curry to score and score big to win


:dead: Switching a big onto Curry? Real talk, have you ever watched him play?


:dead: @ Trapping him.......I'm going to go on a limb and say you don't watch the Warriors play.
 

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And Barnes has Bogut and Green in the paint :wtf: , Bogut was 2nd in the league last year in rim protection.


Pippen 16.7ppg on .393 vs Juwan Howard in the playoffs, what's the excuse for not cooking a PF? Since you only seem to have excuses :jbhmm:

in small ball bogut isn't on the floor. If the warriors play bogut, the bulls are swalloing them since their spacing would be fukked. Longley, and bison would give bogus work.

Howard is a legit 6'10 with a 7ft wing span bruh. Who on GS was as lengthy as howard was that would play? Howard is a dog
 

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:dead: Switching a big onto Curry? Real talk, have you ever watched him play?


:dead: @ Trapping him.......I'm going to go on a limb and say you don't watch the Warriors play.

rodman is only 6'7 that's not big in any circle. He has the versatility to guard every position on the floor he' was an all 1st team defender something you seem to gloss over. I watch the warriors play. Curry is amazing but teams are scared of green and i just don't see it.

How are the warriors stopping the bulls. who' guarding jordan? who can guard toni?
 

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Switch Rodman onto Curry :russ:







Nobody wants to switch bigs onto him because he makes them dance.

in small ball bogut isn't on the floor. If the warriors play bogut, the bulls are swalloing them since their spacing would be fukked. Longley, and bison would give bogus work.

Howard is a legit 6'10 with a 7ft wing span bruh. Who on GS was as lengthy as howard was that would play? Howard is a dog


The Warriors spacing isn't "fukked" when they have bigs on the floor, the hell are you talking about :wtf:


So let me get this straight, the team with almost no 3 point shooting and two bigs on the floor that can't shoot, neither of which are offensive threats in the post they don't have a spacing problem, but the team with 4 guys that can shoot on the court and 1 defensive big does?
 

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Switch Rodman onto Curry :russ:








Nobody wants to switch bigs onto him because he makes them dance.




The Warriors spacing isn't "fukked" when they have bigs on the floor, the hell are you talking about :wtf:


So let me get this straight, the team with almost no 3 point shooting and two bigs on the floor that can't shoot, neither of which are offensive threats don't have a spacing problem, but the team with 4 guys on the court and 1 defensive big does?


they don't have the same type of space with bogut on the court as opposed to on the bench. yes or no. Maybe i should've been clearer :yeshrug: The bulls don't rely on 3pointers so the spacing issue isn't an issue with the bulls. The bulls win with the triangle. shooting 3s is a secondary thing for the bulls so the spacing isn't needed as much as the warriors need it.

how would the warriors defend the bulls and the triangle. You keep saying they never seen a team like the warriors, but the warriors never seen a team like the bulls

imagine jordan and pippen playing offense in this era with no bigs and rules that allow them to dominate on the perimeter.
 

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curry is a great offensive player @Malta showing me these 2 videos confirms that. they ran the pick and roll with green at the 4 and instead of trapping they let davis go 1 on 1 and he got beat. I never said the bulls would stop curry completely, hes going to get his. the key is them other nikkas
 
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this isn't figure skating breh, curry can shoot off the dribble 3's 40 foot 3's et.. It all counts the same. kerr's % is higher. Curry is amazing
Actually in this context it does matter how one shoots three-pointers, especially since Kerr was limited in how he could score them. Kerr's percentage is 1% higher, yet Curry has made 500+ more. I mean seriously, are you that anti-10s that you're going to argue this point?

Curry has made 1,243 three-pointers at 44%
Kerr has made 726 three-pointers at 45%

:mindblown:

How you could possibly come to the conclusion that Kerr was a better three-pointer shooter, I don't know.
Why would the bulls need a few games? How are the warriors guarding the bulls? Who on GSW can guard jordan? pippen? who can matchup to 6'10 kukoc?
The Warriors would work out on how to best defend the Bulls well before the vice versa. GS have multiple players and arguably the greatest defensive scheme to guard both Jordan and Pippen. Draymond, Bogut and Ezeli can guard Kukoc.
How are the warriors adjusting to the bulls half court triangle potent offense?
The triangle offense the Bulls used in 97 is easier to deal with than most offensive schemes the Warriors have faced, especially since the Bulls would have to deal with zone defense.
switch it up how? Curry would only be able to guard harper in our lineup. You can't put him on pippen kukoc or mj cause he's either getting cooked or fouling out. You can't put him on dennis or else he's grabbing every offensive rebound. Teams today don't take advantage of curry but the bulls absolutely would make him guard someone on defense.
You want to know why this isn't happening? Because you're forgetting that the Warriors would leave Rodman open when he's on the perimeter, and use Curry to disrupt the Bulls offense by working in and out of the passing lanes. You're putting far too much focus on Curry's lack of defense, or how the Bulls would expose him on that end. The Warriors defense works because every player is helping each other. There'd only be the odd occasion where Curry would be left on his opposite by himself with no other Warrior in the vicinity.

The Bulls couldn't just punish Curry on the low block because before that player could get a shot off, he'd have to deal with players helping off their player and distributing the ball carrier. If it were Harper (which it most typically be, given all the other matchups), i) he wouldn't able to create a shot in those situations ii) he wouldn't be able to deal with the effects of zone defense.

Please list these "favorable" warrior matchups. Besides curry the bulls are superior at every other position on the court should the bulls play small to match them
The favorable matchups for the Warriors would all be dependent on what lineups they'd put out -

Livingston would abuse Kerr/Brown in the post
Klay would tire out and free himself up on every perimeter role player
Barbosa has the speed/ability to get past every perimeter role player
Iggy has the speed/ability to get past every big man role player
Barnes has the ability to back down every Bulls guard/wing role player not named Harper and has the speed to get past every Bulls big man role player
Green has the ability to breakdown any Bulls role player in initiating the offense/creating mismatchups

This is all without mentioning the favorable matchups Curry would create for himself and the added effect he'd have for the rest of the team.
 

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rodman is only 6'7 that's not big in any circle. He has the versatility to guard every position on the floor he' was an all 1st team defender something you seem to gloss over. I watch the warriors play. Curry is amazing but teams are scared of green and i just don't see it.

How are the warriors stopping the bulls. who' guarding jordan? who can guard toni?


Rodman was 34-36 during the three peat, if you think switching him onto Curry is smart I don't know what to say, Anthony Davis who is considerably quicker than Rodman was at that time could not stay in front of Curry.

Toni Kukoc?

Playoff numbers during three peat

10.7ppg 3.6rpg 3.1apg .425% .302 from three........you shytting on Draymond, yet here you are asking me whose guarding a dude that had worse numbers? :dead:
 

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If kerr plays, Walton will have to coach the warriors
Luke walton is statically the greatest coach of all time:ufdup:
But will Steph get shut down by randy brown and Steve kerr:jbhmm:
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Are u out of ur mind fam?

Rodman could, and did, legitimately guard 1-5. Magic. MJ. Pippen. Shaq. Malone. Robinson. Worthy. Rodman defended them all. Because he could defend them all. No assignment was impossible for him at his very best.

Now he's supposed to struggle with Green? Green?!?! Please.

He's not gonna struggle with Green on ISO matchups but what happens when Green is just chilling around the 3 point line and Rodman has to guard him? Bulls lose a bunch of their defensive rebounding presence with Rodman on Green, open the lanes, and they get effectively out of the picture just like they did with Tristan Thompson.

If you put MJ on Curry, they're just gonna use him off-ball and have MJ running through screens and wearing him out.

What about the bench? How does Chicago do when they're going against Livingston, Barbosa, Iggy, David Lee, and Speights?

Why are people acting like Pippen woukd just abuse the likes of Thompson, Barnes, or Iggy plus constant Green rotation because who needs to guard Rodman offensively?

Bulls win in 5-6 but they're all hard fought. The Warriors are unbelievably versatile, have multiple guys who can initiate their offense as playmakers, and can go small or big with no problem. Plus their bench is crazy.
 

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Win a series against Warriors sure... Sweep??? smh... No way :come on:

I hate when these atheles are on their high horse and start talking fukking nonsense
Ron Harper out of all people
Dude hasn't been relevant since he tried suing Rigbys for slipping on that orange soda and breaking his leg
 

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Warriors in five but honestly, this wouldn't be fair. The Bulls would likely be better than that team today with the fact that they wouldn't have Luc Longley starting or the fact that they wouldn't have wack bench players like Brown or Wellington getting mins. Their weak offensive frontcourt would get killed in today's NBA which is about spacing and controlling the paint which none of the bigs in Chicago did at the time. With the length in today's NBA and zone defense, what used to be a great shot (mid range jumper) is now a meh shot and MJ wouldn't be able to do his grand 8 second post-ups and he would likely get stripped in the process. Add to the fact that zone defense reign in today's NBA and the game is much more smart, the Bulls might get run out of the arena. This idea that NJ or Pip is slowing down Steph is hilarious. No their not especially in their 30's. Steph will bake an older Ron Harper worse than he's doing players this year contrary to popular belief Iggy would be a nightmare for MJ. His size, strength and defensive quickness is top notch, MJ would struggle w/ that and the zone defenses. The NBA back then was MJ/bigs friendly, today's NBA is PG/shooting friendly. The Bulls would get dominated. Shooting, illegal defense, spacing and depth would kill the Bulls


GS in 5
 
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