Ron Harper got some words for Kyrie .....

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He don't want to play with Lebron

For Christ sake San Antonio & Minnesota on his list of teams

Kyrie has no problem with playing with Butler, Kat, Claw, & Whiteside. It's like people can't believe Eric Benet cheating on Halle and shyt
And it was also said that he wants to go to NY.

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Skill level ain't near the same but the mentality is. It's easy to say that about Kobe now, but at the time he forced Shaq out (yes he forced the trade before he agreed to resign which is why the Lakers rushed it) people were saying the exact same shyt about him. How he's not good enough to carry a team or be the number one player. How Shaq carried him and he should be appreciative of the situation he was in. That he's destined to lead .500 teams for the rest of his career and would never win again.

Hell I think even the team situations are the same. The Lakers were capped out and really didn't have much outside of Kobe and Shaq. Shaq was unmotivated to get in shape. I think the Lakers with those two could've been contenders but I don't think they would've been able to win another title. Same way I look at the Cavs going up against GS. They'll still be contenders I just don't see them as a title team.


The team situations are exactly the same..


So you're asserting that LeBron isn't motivated to stay in shape?!:russ::russ:

Trying to cast this as Kobe-Shaq 2.0 is 1/2 lazy attempt at analogy and 1/2 Kobe stans trying to get their nostalgia rocks off.


It's not the same and it won't end the same.
 

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Harper could play. He was lethal on offense when he wanted to be and MJ specifically wanted Harper on the team (read 'The Jordan Rules' a must-read for any real NBA fan, it's about the Bulls during their reign). Also: he took a backseat on production to help MJ and the Bulls..

That said.. I can get that Kyrie is seriously ok with playing WITH a superstar but is also seriously tired of playing UNDER THE WINGS of a superstar. This whole 'that's my kid brother' thing.. is nuts. He's a grown man now and he can wreck practically anybody in the league 1-on-1.. treat him like that.

With the Warriors (I don't like them) I see more 'equality' in the team and they seem to have more mutual respect.

LeBron is really on this 'LeBron is the leader' trip a bit TOO much. He treats dudes making 80 million like Mario Chalmers at training or something..

Not only that, he clearly wants to play for somebody other than Dan Gilbert

Gilbert only cared about adding to the Cavs once LeBron came back, and now that LeBron leaving again is a real possibility, aint no way he'd stay and end up in the same situation again.

Gilbert cares more about the Pistons moving back into Detroit than he does about the success of the Cavs
 

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The team situations are exactly the same..


So you're asserting that LeBron isn't motivated to stay in shape?!:russ::russ:

Trying to cast this as Kobe-Shaq 2.0 is 1/2 lazy attempt at analogy and 1/2 Kobe stans trying to get their nostalgia rocks off.


It's not the same and it won't end the same.
No genius, I was explaining why I didn't see the Lakers winning any more championships. Shaq was showing up each year out of shape and was getting older and the role players were all getting old. The competition wasn't as steep but I just did not see that Lakers team winning.

With the Cavs they are a great team but I just think Golden State is too loaded. Obviously Lebron is always in great shape but the team did not improve at all so I see no way that this Cavs team comes back and beats the Warriors.

So how exactly is this not like the Kobe/Shaq situation? For me this has nothing to do with being a fan of the Lakers or Kobe just seeing the similarity of the situations. Like I stated I think he's making a mistake. Just saying I can see why he thinks it's the best move for him.
 

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I feel i'm stepping into these corny NBA stan wars.

I want out now. :hubie:
It's facts tho. Kyrie know NY is terrible orginization and don't have assets to get him. That's cleary a move to show the Cavs I ain't playing. I want to leave
You acting like cats don't want to live or play in NY. Phil is gone breh.
cats want to live there sure. But NY has not got a in their prime player since Allan Houston unless u want to count Amare other than those two. Who else?

I don't count Melo because he just wanted to go home.

Other than that no elite players want play for the knicks
 

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Skill level ain't near the same but the mentality is. It's easy to say that about Kobe now, but at the time he forced Shaq out (yes he forced the trade before he agreed to resign which is why the Lakers rushed it) people were saying the exact same shyt about him. How he's not good enough to carry a team or be the number one player. How Shaq carried him and he should be appreciative of the situation he was in. That he's destined to lead .500 teams for the rest of his career and would never win again.
It's easy to say that about Kobe now in hindsight. Those years immediately after Shaq proved the so-called Kobe "haters" right. The team was mediocre as Kobe played hero-ball ala ai/tmac. The Lakers didn't win a playoff series until 4 years after Shaq left. They didn't become good until The Lakers brought Phil back and actually built a championship team around Kobe. Kobe didn't "carry" those teams to rings. Stop it.

The main difference between Kobe and kyrie is that Kobe is a legit 6'6 and kyrie is maybe 6'3. Kyrie' body will not hold up for a full season plus playoffs playing hero ball as the #1 option. He doesn't even have the game to be the #1 option on a title contender minus a coach like Phil and a supporting cast like the one Kobe had in LA for his last 2 rings.
 

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It's easy to say that about Kobe now in hindsight. Those years immediately after Shaq proved the so-called Kobe "haters" right. The team was mediocre as Kobe played hero-ball ala ai/tmac. The Lakers didn't win a playoff series until 4 years after Shaq left. They didn't become good until The Lakers brought Phil back and actually built a championship team around Kobe. Kobe didn't "carry" those teams to rings. Stop it.

The main difference between Kobe and kyrie is that Kobe is a legit 6'6 and kyrie is maybe 6'3. Kyrie' body will not hold up for a full season plus playoffs playing hero ball as the #1 option. He doesn't even have the game to be the #1 option on a title contender minus a coach like Phil and a supporting cast like the one Kobe had in LA for his last 2 rings.
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Ok well when after you've wiped your tears and blown your nose, maybe you can explain exactly what you don't agree with and why, since you felt the need to let me know that you don't agree.
 
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