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KPJ Gonna Save Us
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He's in control of his arms
Look at hers flop and her wrist is limp as shyt

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face while she's throwingThought Vanes went to Roach when he went pro, but he was at that gym when he was a pretty successful amateur?
I don't know about the particulars in that region.
As for Vic I figured it wasn't serious when I saw her training, that said again I look at her flaws as being because she is a hard headed diva more than anything
I didn't say he started when he was 30. I specifically said Vanes went to Roach when he went pro.Vanes started when he was 4 years old, not when he was damn near 30
you need a great trainer to help in that situation
I didn't say he started when he was 30. I specifically said Vanes went to Roach when he went pro.
That said again, didn't he grow up boxing in the same gym you are claiming doesn't have any good trainers?
Vanes training with Goosen isn't a point at all, it literally means nothing with what I have posted.Vanes I don't know, he trains with goosen, that's the point, Vanes trains with real trainers for over decade now, natural talent can only take you so far
also he started when he was 4 it's different, pro fighting is different than training kids,
Vanes was athletically gifted if he started with a trainer like Robert Garcia first he would better than he is now. Gym isn't special which is why you don't know any trainers out of the gym. He started his career with Roach for a reason, Darchinyan is washed up when he started training with Edmond and he got knocked by Donaire lmao as soon he switched to him
Ronda has learned absolutely nothing, she doesn't move her head, nothing, it's levels to this shyt


Vanes training with Goosen isn't a point at all, it literally means nothing with what I have posted.
Vanes starting young, literally has nothing to do with what I have posted.
No one knew how good a trainer Virgil Hunter was until Ward, saying that a club isn't good because no one notable has come from there is faulty reasoning. You need both, you need the fighter and the trainer together to really see someone shoot to superstar status. That said nothing wrong with Vanes and his career, he is in the deepest division in the sport and has held his own againt Charlo in a fight that could have gone either way, did well against Lara the first time, and did well against Andrade. There is nothing ot be ashamed of with regard to his accomplishments, to say he would be better with Garcia is non-sense, Garcia doesn't train in a style that is best suited for him IMHO, maybe Robert and Mikey's dad would be a better trainer, seeing that they said the pops is Mikey's real trainer and he has a very good boxer - puncher style, compared to a lot of Garcia's guys which looks like he is great at trainer swarmers and brawler types.
All that to say, again, the gym Ronda is at doesn't seem to be the real problem, the real problem seems to be Ronda. Even her mother called her out for her lack of discipline and focus
Who trained him as kid is the point, you don't know, that glendale fighting club probably was even there when he was kid and he was going somewhere else
it sure isn't the guys there now
Virgil Hunter is a good trainer, that doesn't mean the other guys at that gym were good trainers where he first met Andre, Andre didn't dump virgil like Vanes dumped whoever it was he started with
Andre Ward hasn't been at the gym since he was a kid and he's always trained with Virgil
The gym sucks, it's just a fact, Edmond is a joke in the fighting game, the fact they allow him to operate there makes their gym a joke
Vanes did good against those guys because he been training with Roach and Goosen, real trainers all his career
Not going to say anything about Edmond, I don't know, and I"m not defending him.
That said again I think its bogus to looks at Ronda and say her terribleness at boxing is because the gym, and not because of her own issues.