Royce Da 5'9 says Big Daddy Kane couldn't out rap a picture of Jay-Z

[spliz]

Rakim is so near & dear to everyone's heart that you gonna have people fighting to the death to hold on to his reference in the game

He was the biggest dude during the biggest time

I ain't no joke.. it's like catching the biggest wave from the middle of the ocean and riding that bish all the way to the shore.

But I keep it 100.. you have a valid legit point that KRS & G-rap should probably be ranked higher since the 90s were a different story and both of them remained consistent during that time

So if we're gonna look at the totality of their careers they should be higher then him


But nobody will agree with that .. the highest high is what resonates with people the most.. That's what will be the lasting memory.

Not the consistency over a longer period of time

And this is the problem I have when nikkas try to shyt on a cat like Nas who stayed relevant for 30+ years and leave him out a top 5 cause of “consistency” yet turn around in throw Rakim or Eminem in that bytch I’m like wtf? How the fukk u gonna talk to me about consistency when ur OWN LIST ain’t consistent?. Lol. I’m like just say u fukk wit the other cats more and stop tryna make like it’s somehow Nas’ fault he ain’t on it. Lol. And don’t get it twisted. I don’t have a prob wit Ra being in anyone’s top 5 the nikka is a GOAT. But nikkas need to keep shyt 100.

 

[Phantom Dreamer]

nikkas on this site act as if Nas isn't in someone's personal top five, there must be a problem

 

[spliz]

nikkas on this site act as if Nas isn't in someone's personal top five, there must be a problem

So I see instead of actually quoting me u sending subliminals. But imma respond anyway. If u actually READ what I wrote it’s not about Nas not being in someone’s top 5. I was speaking on consistency of REASONING rather than just saying he’s not in your top 5 fav rappers. nikkas making it Nas’ fault rather it being just the fact that he’s not their taste. Atleast for a top 5 spot. But the MAIN point was about Rakim being in lists above a couple of his peers who have had better overall careers.

 

[Master Teacher]

nikkas on this site act as if Nas isn't in someone's personal top five, there must be a problem

a personal top 5 isn't a top 5 thats your favorite

I listen to Camron more than 2pac, but I can't put camron in no damn top 5 because I listen to his music more, that ain't how shyt works

It's this thing called reality, you can choose to accept it or not

your personal opinion doesn't erase facts

you can think 2pac is wack, but you can't see he not one of the greatest rappers ever because his impact on reality cannot be questioned

Ain't no opinions on this, this is fact

Nas has to be a top 5 rapper, because he's DONE TOO MUCH in the culture not to be

in order to be greater than Nas you gotta cover a lot of bases, and 98 percent of rappers don't, if you don't have Nas in your top 5 you don't know shyt about rap period lmao Nas is in the top 5

there is not my top 5, not your top 5, no nikka Nas is a top 5 rapper based on reality lmao

 

[spliz]

a personal top 5 isn't a top 5 thats your favorite

I listen to Camron more than 2pac, but I can't put camron in no damn top 5 because I listen to his music more, that ain't how shyt works

It's this thing called reality, you can choose to accept it or not

your personal opinion doesn't erase facts

you can think 2pac is wack, but you can't see he not one of the greatest rappers ever because his impact on reality cannot be questioned

Ain't no opinions on this, this is fact

Nas has to be a top 5 rapper, because he's DONE TOO MUCH in the culture not to be

in order to be greater than Nas you gotta cover a lot of bases, and 98 percent of rappers don't, if you don't have Nas in your top 5 you don't know shyt about rap period lmao Nas is in the top 5

there is not my top 5, not your top 5, no nikka Nas is a top 5 rapper based on reality lmao

Clear case of greatest vs favorites.

 

[Crumple]

It's one reason why people see the obvious influence that Kane had on the styles on Biggie & Jayz

Guys like Slick Rick , Big Daddy Kane and Grandmaster Caz from the Cold Crush bros before them can be seen as the fathers of that style
That they perfected and took to a new level

Rapping about girls, money & being fly

I believe it's out of respect that some people will never see the son as being greater than the father since he could not exist without those that came before him .. building upon the foundation which they created

But I disagree.. I believe the son can be greater than the father based on his own works as he is also a creator taking a baton so to speak and running farther than anyone before him ever had

It's all subjective people will lean towards their favorites like a Jordan vs Lebron debate

Both are great

And it should go without saying that what Royce said was wildly disrespectful to a legend in the game.
I like Royce but his career is like playing at the Rucker when compared to these all time greats he shouldn't even be allowed to speak on them

Word. Very, very well said. I actually appreciated reading that. You really know the deal with Hip Hop and we need more people like you around. Thanks again @Absolut da poet ®

 

[-Quikness-]

What the fukk has Royce ever really done? No classic albums at all. He should know better than to talk about one of the greats like this.

 

[OGBobbyJohnson]

G Rap nicer than Rakim in 2021

I agree with this..Another 80's rapper who still sounds fresh that nobody talks about..Jaz O

 

[Phantom Dreamer]

So I see instead of actually quoting me u sending subliminals. But imma respond anyway. If u actually READ what I wrote it’s not about Nas not being in someone’s top 5. I was speaking on consistency of REASONING rather than just saying he’s not in your top 5 fav rappers. nikkas making it Nas’ fault rather it being just the fact that he’s not their taste. Atleast for a top 5 spot. But the MAIN point was about Rakim being in lists above a couple of his peers who have had better overall careers.

you just so happened to be the hit dog but this is a common thing on this board; it's not just you.

Nas is actually in my top five. It's just hilarious that people love Nas enough to monitor where he is on other people's lists.

everyone's list is always ultimately based on their taste.

where should Tech N9ne and K-Rino be ranked if we're talking consistency?

a personal top 5 isn't a top 5 thats your favorite

I listen to Camron more than 2pac, but I can't put camron in no damn top 5 because I listen to his music more, that ain't how shyt works

It's this thing called reality, you can choose to accept it or not

your personal opinion doesn't erase facts

you can think 2pac is wack, but you can't see he not one of the greatest rappers ever because his impact on reality cannot be questioned

Ain't no opinions on this, this is fact

Nas has to be a top 5 rapper, because he's DONE TOO MUCH in the culture not to be

in order to be greater than Nas you gotta cover a lot of bases, and 98 percent of rappers don't, if you don't have Nas in your top 5 you don't know shyt about rap period lmao Nas is in the top 5

there is not my top 5, not your top 5, no nikka Nas is a top 5 rapper based on reality lmao

i'm ,

you sound like my nephew who knows which rappers he's supposed to off top, even if he knows little to nothing about them.

 

[Cladyclad]

a personal top 5 isn't a top 5 thats your favorite

I listen to Camron more than 2pac, but I can't put camron in no damn top 5 because I listen to his music more, that ain't how shyt works

It's this thing called reality, you can choose to accept it or not

your personal opinion doesn't erase facts

you can think 2pac is wack, but you can't see he not one of the greatest rappers ever because his impact on reality cannot be questioned

Ain't no opinions on this, this is fact

Nas has to be a top 5 rapper, because he's DONE TOO MUCH in the culture not to be

in order to be greater than Nas you gotta cover a lot of bases, and 98 percent of rappers don't, if you don't have Nas in your top 5 you don't know shyt about rap period lmao Nas is in the top 5

there is not my top 5, not your top 5, no nikka Nas is a top 5 rapper based on reality lmao

Do your method apply to songs or just rappers?

 

[DANJ!]

I almost don't wanna read this whole thread, cause I know the reaching for either side of this debate is gonna be insane

But yeah, Royce is just bein' ridiculous. And this, coming from a guy who's been defending the fukk out of Eminem albums for the last 10 years.

Jay, for the record, has passed Kane at this point. This being said, Royce's statement as if Kane is some bum nikka who has never and could never fukk with Jay is erroneous as all hell. That's when you're just goin' over the top and being outlandish to win a debate.

 

[Jesus Is Lord]

 

[NormanConnors]

G Rap nicer than Rakim in 2021

Nah

 

[FreshAIG]

Nah

G Rap dropped a collab album with one of the nicest rappers in the world currently (38 Spesh) a couple years ago, and easily held his own throughout.

Outside of one verse on Busta's album, I haven't heard a dope Rakim verse in a minute. I could be missing something, but I haven't been hearing it. G Rap is consistently dropping dope verses over the last few years.

 

[NormanConnors]

Rakim is so near & dear to everyone's heart that you gonna have people fighting to the death to hold on to his reverence in the game

He was the biggest dude during the biggest time

I ain't no joke.. it's like catching the biggest wave from the middle of the ocean and riding that bish all the way to the shore.
I really wish he & Kane had a real battle in '88 - '89
I always felt Kane could've got him

But anyway... you have a valid legit point that KRS & G-rap should probably be ranked higher since the 90s were a different story and both of them remained consistent during that time

So if we're gonna look at the totality of their careers they should be higher than him


But nobody will agree with that .. the highest high is what resonates with people the most.. That's what will be the lasting memory.

Not the consistency over a longer period of time

even Kane didnt believe that otherwise he would have answered on record