Royce DA 5'9 Throws Joe Budden Under The Bus For Massa Marshall (Eminem) + Joe Responds

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no one said he put him on, he just put him back on. im not an em fan, but we're not gonna act like he didnt give slaughterhouse a deal. and it took a while to get it right, so you know they got a bag.
Bro. He signed Slaughterhouse. Not Joe Budden. And thats prolly only cause of Royce. On top of that. All of the material they had before signing to Shady was better than after. Eminem didnt put Joe Budden on fam.
 

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I see both sides and agree with both AND disagree. A very complicated situation.

As much as i think joe is a bird, i agree with his eminem breakdown. Royce said “there was an easier way to go about that album that em coulda took but didnt” which i believe is a copout. Em is RICH. He dont need to make hits and can afford to make this album rn. Em needs a target and trump is an an easy one. If em was a rebel he would have went at obama but he knows better. Em needs the black audience for rep like it or not. He has always pandered for rep since day one so this is not nothing new. He did it with Bush hell do it with Trump.

So imo eminem imo deserves NO recognition for this move it was a very easy one to make like every one hes done with his career. “Whos popular rn” = “diss them”. Its a simple equation.

With that said, joe did not have to go out of his way to say all that in that way. Especially when you signed to dide and dude helped reignite the flame on your career.

Joe stans can say all they want, budden was dead in the water pre slaughterhouse. He would not be where he is now without them. So joe going at a supposed friend like this only shows joes arrogance and snake like tendencies.

Joe calling anyone out for attention seeking is funny to me as dude cant keep other MCs names out his mouth.

Hes just a chatty patty bytch ass dude. A social media loving twitter thot. If em was dudes friend that would have been put out in a private conversation not on a popular platform. Joe tried to convince people em was pandering; he was right but there is a time and place for such things and social media/internet/tv isnt one of them; but welcome to the brave new world where nothing is private..

Em gettjng so upset sons a chatty patty makes em look like a hoe too. Em decided to play politics a long time ago and instead of going against the system became a part of it and is helping perpetrate the fraud.

Everyone lost in this sitch. Both have valid points but BOTH made themselves look dumb as fukk with how they made their points. A lesson in humility is needed.


I know yall budden fans wants to believe this so bad but im sure its false. Budden was on the road with slaughterhouse more than he ever was on his oWn. Em put money in dudes pockets. He took 4 mcs with 0 buzz who were heading to the literal slaughterhouse and gave them a breath of life. Joe prolly thinks he didnt need that breath but dude was DOA idk who he and the budden stans are kidding.
Bro. Slaughterhouse was Slaughterhouse before Eminem even stepped in the picture. Eminem came in and ruined the shyt honestly. But Slaughterhouse already had their own buzz before Em stepped in and made better music as well.
 

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how bout we do this, what does your job do for you "other than a paycheck?" apply all that to yall "what did em ever do for joe besides a deal?" shyt and see how foolish yall sound.
 

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Lol nikkas ain't working 9 to 5s he can say wtf he wants. That nikka ain't rapping with them any more and his job at the time was to give an honest critique. nikkas acting like Em got Joe off the streets need to cut it out. nikka was in the game for over a decade when he was a part of slaughterhouse and didn't gain shyt but shytty music.
Some just can't shake the "white savior" image :yeshrug:
 

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i'm still trying to find out exactly what Em did for Slaughterhouse besides ruin their entire sound with that trashy ass Debut on Shady :scust:if anything Royce was the only one who benefited from that deal since he got a Gold record with that Bad Meets Evil EP. otherwise you don't really see Joell, Crooked or Budden benefiting off that deal.
 

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i'm still trying to find out exactly what Em did for Slaughterhouse besides ruin their entire sound with that trashy ass Debut on Shady :scust:if anything Royce was the only one who benefited from that deal since he got a Gold record with that Bad Meets Evil EP. otherwise you don't really see Joell, Crooked or Budden benefiting off that deal.
Well, Em signed the group and he's white so that pratically means he died for their sins :manny:
 

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Royce is right. He definitely addressed how Joe came across very well. It's pretty much the same thing Joe has been told before. He has the right idea but he fukks up how the message can be delivered. That time, it went left and it was done in poor taste. Joe can say what he wants but, also, that doesn't mean saying what you want may not come with the consequences either. I mean, who knows what kind of damage this did with his relationship with Em, Shady, and Slaughterhouse.

But yeah, Joe has always been one to maintain his career on his own no matter his situation. So the whole thing about Em/Shady saving him, I don't get that.
 

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Bro. Slaughterhouse was Slaughterhouse before Eminem even stepped in the picture. Eminem came in and ruined the shyt honestly. But Slaughterhouse already had their own buzz before Em stepped in and made better music as well.
What buzz? Lol

Their first album sold less then 35k copies... some buzz...200k sales WITH em. So please... u dont have to knw math to know thats a major difference

They got MAJOR exposure thru em and that was a bone. Just like em cosigning obie trice, d12 ... he helped slaughterhouse

Yall are under valueing what he did for them. Em even did an album with one of their members for christsake (one year before their second album at that).
 

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What buzz? Lol

Their first album sold less then 35k copies... some buzz...

They got MAJOR exposure thru em and that was a bone. Just like em cosigning obie trice, d12 ... he helped slaughterhouse

Yall are under valueing what he did for them. Em even did an album with one of their members for christsake (one year before their second album at that).

sounds like you're overvaluing what Em did.

They may have sold more with that second album, but it really ain't help'em overall.

The album was shytted on, and rightfully so....the third album is stuck in limbo, and will never be released.

Bad Meets Evil is seperate from Slaughterhouse. Em and Royce were a group before SH, why are you acting like Em was doing Royce a favor?
 

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sounds like you're overvaluing what Em did.

They may have sold more with that second album, but it really ain't help'em overall.

The album was shytted on, and rightfully so....the third album is stuck in limbo, and will never be released.

Bad Meets Evil is seperate from Slaughterhouse. Em and Royce were a group before SH, why are you acting like Em was doing Royce a favor?
35k vs 200k

600 percent increase.

Slaughterhouse is not marketable in todays era at all and he still signed them.

U think em saw budden ortiz and crook and saw dollar signs? What woukd u call it
 

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What buzz? Lol

Their first album sold less then 35k copies... some buzz...200k sales WITH em. So please... u dont have to knw math to know thats a major difference

They got MAJOR exposure thru em and that was a bone. Just like em cosigning obie trice, d12 ... he helped slaughterhouse

Yall are under valueing what he did for them. Em even did an album with one of their members for christsake (one year before their second album at that).

Em still killed the group with the debut they were made to drop. He also shelved the Just Blaze produced Slaughterhouse album, that all of the members swear is fire. The group was so embarrassed by the album, they told the fans that the mixtape was the real album for them. Mixtape was fire though:ehh:
 
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